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  • nebulonN nebulon

    You can manually check for updates in that other Cloudron and then update nextcloud from the app configure view in the Cloudron dashboard.

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    ekevu123
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    @nebulon Yes, I know, but it doesn't show any update. Perhaps because I am running Cloudron 7.3 in the instance with the newer Nextcloud version and 7.2 in the other, where the update is not shown?

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      @nebulon Yes, I know, but it doesn't show any update. Perhaps because I am running Cloudron 7.3 in the instance with the newer Nextcloud version and 7.2 in the other, where the update is not shown?

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      nebulon
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      @ekevu123 ah that is correct, latest Nextcloud is only for Cloudron v7.3 on

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        @ekevu123 ah that is correct, latest Nextcloud is only for Cloudron v7.3 on

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        @nebulon I updated Cloudron and Nextcloud now, but the issue remains - copy-pasting from Collabora is still disabled for anyone but me.

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          Reading this again, just to be on the same page, are you talking about copy/paste of text in the documents within collabora or the document itself in nextcloud? For the first within the document, I can't see how this is not a client-side/browser issue tbh.

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          • nebulonN nebulon

            Reading this again, just to be on the same page, are you talking about copy/paste of text in the documents within collabora or the document itself in nextcloud? For the first within the document, I can't see how this is not a client-side/browser issue tbh.

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            @nebulon I am talking about any office documents using Collabora, specifically from Collabora to any other application.

            I am quite sure that it's not a client-side or browser issue because it happens to 10 user accounts and I can reproduce the issue when I impersonate anyone else, whereas it works for me being the admin (or file owner, not sure yet what the reason is).

            The document itself can be copied within Nextcloud without any problems, so this issue is related to Collabora.

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              Just tried our instance here, but I can at least select and use either ctrl+c or rightclick copy in collabora, then paste it into other applications outside the browser. But I am still not sure if this is the kind of copy/pasting you are referring to, as I can't see how this would be a server-side or even nextcloud connection related issue.

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              • nebulonN nebulon

                Just tried our instance here, but I can at least select and use either ctrl+c or rightclick copy in collabora, then paste it into other applications outside the browser. But I am still not sure if this is the kind of copy/pasting you are referring to, as I can't see how this would be a server-side or even nextcloud connection related issue.

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                @nebulon I believe it's an issue with Collabora, but perhaps only within Nextcloud. But since I can replicate it when impersonating an affected user from my computer, it is unlikely to be specific to one user's configuration only.

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                  @nebulon I believe it's an issue with Collabora, but perhaps only within Nextcloud. But since I can replicate it when impersonating an affected user from my computer, it is unlikely to be specific to one user's configuration only.

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                  @ekevu123 I found this possible solution: https://github.com/nextcloud/richdocuments/issues/2496#issuecomment-1274881244

                  But maybe you know where this patch needs to be added?

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                    I am still puzzled as to what you are trying to copy and paste. That patch is some php server side thing, which surely can't affect your clipboard on the desktop. So I believe we still talk about different things.

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      I am still puzzled as to what you are trying to copy and paste. That patch is some php server side thing, which surely can't affect your clipboard on the desktop. So I believe we still talk about different things.

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                      @nebulon Here is a step-by-step breakdown:

                      1. Open any office document in Nextcloud Office, the file format doesn't matter
                      2. Mark any text and copy it, either using right-click or Ctrl+C
                      3. Go to another Office program outside of Nextcloud
                      4. Insert it using either right click and paste or Ctrl+V

                      Expected behaviour:
                      The marked and copied text appears in the other office program.

                      Actual behaviour:
                      The pasted output is a message indicating that copy-pasting is disabled instead of the text.

                          Copying from the document disabled
                      

                      This affects apparently everyone except the admin or file owner (not sure which one is right). It can be reproduced by several users in different browsers and also by me if I use the Impersonate app of Nextcloud to impersonate another user.

                      I am quite certain that the solution shouldn't affect the user's clipboard, but probably this is a user rights issue somehow.

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                        @nebulon Here is a step-by-step breakdown:

                        1. Open any office document in Nextcloud Office, the file format doesn't matter
                        2. Mark any text and copy it, either using right-click or Ctrl+C
                        3. Go to another Office program outside of Nextcloud
                        4. Insert it using either right click and paste or Ctrl+V

                        Expected behaviour:
                        The marked and copied text appears in the other office program.

                        Actual behaviour:
                        The pasted output is a message indicating that copy-pasting is disabled instead of the text.

                            Copying from the document disabled
                        

                        This affects apparently everyone except the admin or file owner (not sure which one is right). It can be reproduced by several users in different browsers and also by me if I use the Impersonate app of Nextcloud to impersonate another user.

                        I am quite certain that the solution shouldn't affect the user's clipboard, but probably this is a user rights issue somehow.

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                        @ekevu123 said in Copy-pasting from editor disabled:

                        The pasted output is a message indicating that copy-pasting is disabled instead of the text.

                        That must be a Nextcloud office feature or security mechanism.

                        Conscious tech

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                          Thanks for the details reproduction steps, but I can't quite see this on my instances. Have you also tried to ask upstream if they maybe have some explanation on how this works or if there is some conscious restriction on the clipboard based on user permissions?

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                            @ekevu123 said in Copy-pasting from editor disabled:

                            The pasted output is a message indicating that copy-pasting is disabled instead of the text.

                            That must be a Nextcloud office feature or security mechanism.

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                            @robi said in Copy-pasting from editor disabled:

                            That must be a Nextcloud office feature or security mechanism.

                            I know! But I am not getting behind how to fix this.

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                            • nebulonN nebulon

                              Thanks for the details reproduction steps, but I can't quite see this on my instances. Have you also tried to ask upstream if they maybe have some explanation on how this works or if there is some conscious restriction on the clipboard based on user permissions?

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                              @nebulon said in Copy-pasting from editor disabled:

                              Thanks for the details reproduction steps, but I can't quite see this on my instances. Have you also tried to ask upstream if they maybe have some explanation on how this works or if there is some conscious restriction on the clipboard based on user permissions?

                              Yes, I got the above-mentioned code as a response, but I don't know exactly what to do with it.

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                                Are you using encryption of some kind? Wondering if it could be that

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  @ekevu123 I found this possible solution: https://github.com/nextcloud/richdocuments/issues/2496#issuecomment-1274881244

                                  But maybe you know where this patch needs to be added?

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                                  @ekevu123 said in Copy-pasting from editor disabled:

                                  But maybe you know where this patch needs to be added?

                                  looks to me like it's already been merged into the code so you wont need to add it, just update

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @ekevu123 said in Copy-pasting from editor disabled:

                                    But maybe you know where this patch needs to be added?

                                    looks to me like it's already been merged into the code so you wont need to add it, just update

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                                    @jdaviescoates Yes, the latest app update has resolved the issue!

                                    Thank you for your help with this, though.

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