Pterodactyl Panel & Pterodactyl Node (each as own app)

[JLX89]

@moocloud_matt That makes sense, I wasnt quite thinking about it like that.

[JLX89]

@moocloud_matt A quick question on this. So taking a look, hypothetically couldn't the panel be setup on Cloudron and Wings be setup on a different server?

It seems the Panel could be setup separately and Cloudron seems to meet most of the requirements for that (MySQL, Redis, etc.) [More Info].

I'm just thinking Cloudron would make that portion of things super easy and take most of the management out of the process, then just dealing with Wings on another server.

Thanks

[JLX89]

Alright, so sorry for multiple replies on this. So I've successfully got Pterodactyl Panel setup and running on the Cloudron LAMP Stack so far. There are a few minor issues with communication to the Pterodactyl Node, but I suspect it's a firewall issue.

So this is definitely possible and would be simplified if it was setup as an App in the Cloudron store with some configurable options on installation.

@girish Would there happen to be anything I could do to help if this would be feasible to setup?

Thanks!

[MooCloud_Matt]

@jlx89
Yes and no,
yes, Pterodactyl Panel can be installed in Cloudron, no Wings can't be installed in Cloudron.

The question is you should install Pterodactyl on Cloudron, aside from firewall Pterodactyl you will need a lot of dependencies, and because you can use Pterodactyl + Wings on the same server as a start you should.

If you have just 1 node you can also use the hosted free version of Pterodactyl and you will be probably fine, but if you have more than 1 node you want to dedicate all instance to Pterodactyl.

A limitation that you will have is probably the HTTPS on a custom port that cloudron doesn't support at the moment.

[LoudLemur]

@Trankery

What is the latest on Pterodactyl on Cloudron?
Why couldn't Wings be run with Cloudron?

[MooCloud_Matt]

@LoudLemur
Wings manage container, that means that it dose the same work as Cloudron.
And that make them incompatible

[LoudLemur]

@MooCloud_Matt This problem, which is a bit like being unable to do recursion, keeps cropping up in Cloudron. It is like a theme. I think it was for similar reasons that Cloudron hasn't proceeded to support Odoo, as Odoo installs applications in a way similar to Cloudron. There was another app recently too, I forget its name right now.

What is interesting though is that Cloudron does support Nextcloud, which installs other modules. The way we managed to solve that might help here.

[MooCloud_Matt]

@LoudLemur
There are many advantages that we don't speak a lot about, but there are some disadvantage too:

What you say in odoo is mostly due to the nature for a read only filesystem.
That don't allow to save data outside 4 directory, very comune for webapp.

Nextcloud is a webapp and is build as it, so it's more flexible to be restricted in directory location.

Odoo is an ERP and is actually a quite good one, and ERP are develop differently, they are not webapp.

Second problem is that Cloudron don't use Pods or Compose, but single container that mean that every app can be run in a single container.
And secondary been Cloudron base on docker and been implemented as the main controller for it, can cause problem if others panel interact with docker.

That's is the reason on the incompatibility for wings.

[LoudLemur]

@MooCloud_Matt said in Pterodactyl Panel & Pterodactyl Node (each as own app):

@LoudLemur
There are many advantages that we don't speak a lot about, but there are some disadvantage too:

What you say in odoo is mostly due to the nature for a read only filesystem.
That don't allow to save data outside 4 directory, very comune for webapp.

Nextcloud is a webapp and is build as it, so it's more flexible to be restricted in directory location.

Odoo is an ERP and is actually a quite good one, and ERP are develop differently, they are not webapp.

Second problem is that Cloudron don't use Pods or Compose, but single container that mean that every app can be run in a single container.
And secondary been Cloudron base on docker and been implemented as the main controller for it, can cause problem if others panel interact with docker.

That's is the reason on the incompatibility for wings.

You are another of the people in the Cloudron community with hard won knowledge. We are lucky you are here, @MooCloud_Matt

[MooCloud_Matt]

@LoudLemur
The issue is that tech change so fast and maybe my information are old.
But ty