Cloudron and different webmail

[tonimad]

I have two servers:

1. vps with little disk space (30 GB).

2. Dedicated server with large calacity of space. Here, on this server, I have my Afterlogic Pro webmail installed.

I want to use a Cloudron instance to take advantage of the email server functionality. So, I can use the mail server settings in my Afterlogic Pro webmail.

My concern is the following: Are the emails stored on the vps (where cloudron is), or are they stored on the high disk capacity server (where webnail is installed)?

I am asking this question because I am going to need a lot of disk space for all my users. So, is there a way that all emails (incoming and outgoing) are delivered directly to the webmail, without leaving a copy (original emails) on the vps (where cloudron resides)?

For me, it would be perfect to install cloudron and webmail on the same server (the dedicated server), but this seems not to be possible, since Afterlogic Webmail is not included in the list of cloudron applications.

It is for this reason that I need to separate both installations (webmail and cloudron) on different servers. But I need all the emails to be delivered directly to the webmail, without leaving a copy in the vps (cloudron), since IMAP and SMTP are used in the webmail.

If the above is not possible, is there a way to install cloudron and Afterlogic on the same server (dedicated server), without both applications interfering with each other?

You can help me?

Thank you so much.

[girish]

@tonimad said in Cloudron and different webmail:

My concern is the following: Are the emails stored on the vps (where cloudron is), or are they stored on the high disk capacity server (where webnail is installed)?

The emails are stored where Cloudron is. In fact, webmail is an "optional" component of the whole mail stack. It is only providing a frontend to read mails. If you like you can just use apps on android/ios/desktop and not use webmail altogether!

For me, it would be perfect to install cloudron and webmail on the same server (the dedicated server), but this seems not to be possible, since Afterlogic Webmail is not included in the list of cloudron applications.

I have no idea about Afterlogic. What is involved in deploying such an app? (as in , what language/framework/db requirements does it have?)

[tonimad]

Thanks for your help.

The emails are stored where Cloudron is. In fact, webmail is an "optional" component of the whole mail stack. It is only providing a frontend to read mails. If you like you can just use apps on android/ios/desktop and not use webmail altogether!

I must necessarily use webmail, since it is for an organization with staff that must access via webmail, without using other types of apps.

I have no idea about Afterlogic. What is involved in deploying such an app? (as in , what language/framework/db requirements does it have?)

The system requirements of Afterlogic (Aurora corporate edition) is:

• Web server: Apache or Nginx
• PHP engine: 7.4 or newer
• Database engine: MySQL 5.7.8 or newer
• FTP/SSH access to the installation location, database connection details, and a test email account to finalize the installation.

Alternatives:

I was the night before installing cloudron. Later, I tried to install Afterlogic webmail on the same server, but I couldn't access ssh with my root key. Does Cloudron change ssh access, once installed on the server?

After installing cloudron in a fresh installation, is it possible to access the server via ssh to install webmail?

[girish]

@tonimad So, you can install Cloudron on the dedi and install afterlogic on the small VPS.

As for afterlogic, it might run on Cloudron just fine . Just use the LAMP app - https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/lamp/

[tonimad]

@girish said in Cloudron and different webmail:

@tonimad So, you can install Cloudron on the dedi and install afterlogic on the small VPS.

As for afterlogic, it might run on Cloudron just fine . Just use the LAMP app - https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/lamp/

Thanks for the information.

This is not possible. Webmail has a hard disk function, where users upload files. For this reason, it is essential to install webmail on the dedicated server.

Regarding LAMP, I understand that I must follow these steps:

• Install LAMP on the dedicated server.
• Install webmail
• Install Cloudron

Everything on the same dedicated server and in the above order, is that correct?

[nebulon]

@tonimad if you want to install afterlogic on Cloudron, you have to install it inside the LAMP Cloudron app. So first install Cloudron, then install the LAMP app from the Cloudron app library and then install afterlogic inside the LAMP app.

Generally it is not supported to install things on the side directly on the host system on Cloudron. This will eventually break updates.

[tonimad]

@nebulon said in Cloudron and different webmail:

if you want to install afterlogic on Cloudron, you have to install it inside the LAMP Cloudron app. So first install Cloudron, then install the LAMP app from the Cloudron app library and then install afterlogic inside the LAMP app.
Generally it is not supported to install things on the side directly on the host system on Cloudron. This will eventually break updates.

Perfect. I will try to follow these steps and post my experience to help other users. Thank you so much.

[micmc]

@tonimad said in Cloudron and different webmail:

Dedicated server with large calacity of space. Here, on this server, I have my Afterlogic Pro webmail installed.

One simple question, why would AfterLogic be necessary to run, since you want to migrate to Cloudron and run the email service on it?

Cloudron is ready to run all email services out of the box, and that includes webmail as well without any further configuration necessary other than installing the snapmail web app from the repository.