Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution
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@ctrl Yes, tool is very promising...
In the last year tried most of the "read later" app. Ominvore is minimal and have very clean interface, nothing to do with Wallabag (whose mobile app appears to not support highlights)...
I tried Omnivore for a few days and I really like it, I hope it will have a preferential channel in the development and become a Cloudron app.
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Any news about Omnivore? It seems to be the only good alternative to other apps...
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@p44 I can second this. Recently I had the oppotunity to get my hands on. For now I used in on a daily base with the mobile app which is well made and integrates nicely into the OS from a usability pov.
Most things are there and work reliably. The only thing I'm missing for now is a way to automate tagging by custom rules. But maybe it's just me and I didn't find the feature yet.Hands down I could imagine to use it long term.
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@ctrl said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:
Most things are there and work reliably.
This is in my opinion the most important thing: making sure that the app works reliably. I use apps like Readwise Reader or Matter every day, but every day I come across strange bugs or problems. The real problem with these apps just mentioned is that they want to rush to develop new features, but in reality they leave the old features full of bugs and logical problems.
You won't believe it, but just today I was thinking about updating this post to understand what the chances were of being able to support it on Cloudron. I will try in the next few days to understand if I can install Omnivore on self hosting, but I think it's difficult for me because I don't have enough skills.
Are you using the self-hosted version or on their site?
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@p44 said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:
but every day I come across strange bugs or problems
The question is not whether software has bugs, but whether they are fixed or not. I think end users have to learn to deal with this certainty. And that completely independent of whether software costs money or is available for free.
@p44 said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:
Are you using the self-hosted version or on their site?
I tested the instance on the site of the developer.
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@ctrl Great!!
In the "hosted" version other factors should be considered, such as where the data is stored and who manages it. While in the "self hosted" version these problems would not exist.
However, the app seems to be very smooth. Text-to-speech also works well.
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From Omnivore blog: «October’s updates newsletter»
In "What’s Next":
Improved Self-Hosting- We just merged a patch to remove our elastic search dependency. This will make self-hosting and local development much easier.
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@p44 said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:
Improved Self-Hosting- We just merged a patch to remove our elastic search dependency. This will make self-hosting and local development much easier.
Nice, although of course really want want Cloudron to actually have an Elastic Search addon too
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@ctrl I have used the other solution here on Cloudron in the past, but Wallabag is practically unusable in a real use case. See for example the absence of the possibility to underline and manage annotations...
So I think Omnivore it can be a good compromise to guarantee privacy. Despite this, there is little transparency about who the developers are, where the app is maintained, where the data is stored in the hosted version, and above all they don't respond to any emails....
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I currently moved from Omnivore to Wallabag because Omnivore was not available on Cloudron but I really loved Omnivore UX.
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@MorganGeek It seems that with Wallabag you cannot highlight text and export highlights. Me too I love Omnivore UX... I hope one day can be part of Cloudron App store
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Indeed the Omnivore app has an awesome feature for highlights and for hiding our email from newsletters. However it lacks ability to easily export data, and as I care a lot about data portability, I'm migrating all my links to Wallabag. Wallabag has some annotations related issues open for months and years on Github, including this one (more recent) https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag/issues/5484 which seems to be equivalent to what Omnivore brings, but I don't know when such feature could be expected to be released.
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@MorganGeek I totally agree with your concerns about Omnivore. Not only those, but also is not really explained who they are, where data (for payed version) is hosted, and also they don't reply to any email (even if they show on their home page a "Call to action" like "Contact us" or similar.
About Wallabag, how will you manage highlights. Thank's a lot!
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Yeah I confirm I couldn't not reach out to them or at least they forgot to reply
On the other hand Wallabag has so many issues open in their GitHub for many years, and some of their current features are buggy (the export sometimes takes ages, or the app crashes for memory issues), I like both apps but none is exempt of issues.For now I lack a workflow for highlighted content, I guess the best would be to save some pages as markdown in my Obsidian and highlights from there.
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@MorganGeek said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:
For now I lack a workflow for highlighted content, I guess the best would be to save some pages as markdown in my Obsidian and highlights from there.
@MorganGeek It could be a good workaround but you evaluate see the impact on the reading flow.
Let's see how the development of Omnivore evolves and let's hope
