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What's coming in 7.6

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  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

    I see MongoDB running as a service but I don‘t know which App is actually using it.
    My apps:

    • Surfer
    • Nextcloud
    • TT-RSS
    • Vaultwarden
    • RSS Bridge
    • AdGuard
    • Stirling PDF
    • Snappymail
    • ntfy

    As my CPU does not have AVX yet, I‘d be could off from the app in question….

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    girish
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    @necrevistonnezr meemo, rocketchat, ackee, wekan & nodebb need mongodb. But the way it's implemented you cannot update beyond 7.5.x . It will just error saying AVX support is needed.

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    • girishG girish

      In the spirit of quicker releases, we will make an intermediate 7.6 release before the big backup changes in 8.0.

      What's coming:

      • Update MongoDB to 5.0. Important: this release requires AVX support in CPU
      • Turn: add ddos mitigation settings
      • api: return json when route not found
      • New base image cloudron/base:4.2.0@sha256: 46da2fffb36353ef714f97ae8e962bd2c212ca091108d768ba473078319a47f4
      • Email: Add option to enable/disable Virtual All mailbox
      • Volumes: allow options to be editable after addition for network mounts.
      • app proxy: Host header is set to match the proxy domain instead of the target domain
      • Move import/export user/mailbox API to server side
      • Fix the docker proxy to allow sharing volumes in jupyterhub
      • Fix issue where services configuration is not cloned when cloning apps
      • New and complete REST API docs
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      @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

      Update MongoDB to 5.0. Important: this release requires AVX support in CPU

      I asked Netcup if they could add AVX support to their VPS offering, but they said:

      Sorry, but we can't add the AVX Flag to our VPS, because of the nested virtualization.

      But our Root Servers have avx and avx2 available.

      https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/#root-server-details

      I was going to add to to the initial thread about AVX support but for some reason that has been locked (which I've just discovered also means you can't easily quote any of the posts in it. Odd).

      So I guess it's bye bye affordable (and powered by renewable energy) Netcup VPS servers then. Oh well.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

        Update MongoDB to 5.0. Important: this release requires AVX support in CPU

        I asked Netcup if they could add AVX support to their VPS offering, but they said:

        Sorry, but we can't add the AVX Flag to our VPS, because of the nested virtualization.

        But our Root Servers have avx and avx2 available.

        https://www.netcup.eu/vserver/#root-server-details

        I was going to add to to the initial thread about AVX support but for some reason that has been locked (which I've just discovered also means you can't easily quote any of the posts in it. Odd).

        So I guess it's bye bye affordable (and powered by renewable energy) Netcup VPS servers then. Oh well.

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        @jdaviescoates I have unlocked the avx thread. Would be good to know how many get affected by requiring AVX .

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        • girishG girish

          @necrevistonnezr meemo, rocketchat, ackee, wekan & nodebb need mongodb. But the way it's implemented you cannot update beyond 7.5.x . It will just error saying AVX support is needed.

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          necrevistonnezr
          wrote on last edited by
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          @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

          @necrevistonnezr meemo, rocketchat, ackee, wekan & nodebb need mongodb. But the way it's implemented you cannot update beyond 7.5.x . It will just error saying AVX support is needed.

          I guess there's no easy way to update MongoDB only if needed?

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          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

            @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

            @necrevistonnezr meemo, rocketchat, ackee, wekan & nodebb need mongodb. But the way it's implemented you cannot update beyond 7.5.x . It will just error saying AVX support is needed.

            I guess there's no easy way to update MongoDB only if needed?

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            @necrevistonnezr yeah, that's not possible (well, not trivially) since we only maintain one db version and the app manifest has a minBoxVersion, maxBoxVersion etc which implicitly maps to the db version. For example, an app relying on mongodb 5 would put minBoxVersion as 7.6.0 in manifest.

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              @girish i have 2 servers both running in a vsphere in r930s one is ubuntu 22.04 and another on ubuntu 20.04

              Ubuntu 20.04 upgraded to 7.6
              Ubuntu 22.04 refusing to update due to avx

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              • D DualOSWinWiz

                @girish i have 2 servers both running in a vsphere in r930s one is ubuntu 22.04 and another on ubuntu 20.04

                Ubuntu 20.04 upgraded to 7.6
                Ubuntu 22.04 refusing to update due to avx

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                girish
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                @sufian-mughal maybe it's some vsphere configuration ? Check the cat /proc/cpuinfo output on both VMs. Are they the same?

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                • D DualOSWinWiz

                  @girish i have 2 servers both running in a vsphere in r930s one is ubuntu 22.04 and another on ubuntu 20.04

                  Ubuntu 20.04 upgraded to 7.6
                  Ubuntu 22.04 refusing to update due to avx

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                  @sufian-mughal you should upgrade the VMware virtual machine version (vm), as too old of a template can be prior to the avx support for that vm, even though the CPUs support it.

                  So check the underlying virtual hardware rev.

                  Conscious tech

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                    Yes after upgrade vmware on linux it worked thank you

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                      #19

                      After almost three weeks after “beta release”: when will the rollout begin and will it be marked as stable?

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                      • imc67I imc67

                        After almost three weeks after “beta release”: when will the rollout begin and will it be marked as stable?

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                        @imc67 7.6.1 will be out later this week, but still won't be stable till end of this month. There's a whole bunch of Cloudrons stuck on ubuntu 18 and we are having to help customers upgrade. We don't want to leave them too behind, so 7.6 cannot be stable too soon.

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                          @girish For Cloudrons on Ubuntu 20 or 22, is it safe to update to 7.6 now or better to continue waiting?

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                          • girishG girish

                            @imc67 7.6.1 will be out later this week, but still won't be stable till end of this month. There's a whole bunch of Cloudrons stuck on ubuntu 18 and we are having to help customers upgrade. We don't want to leave them too behind, so 7.6 cannot be stable too soon.

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                            @girish approx how many?

                            Conscious tech

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                            • S sparkwise

                              @girish For Cloudrons on Ubuntu 20 or 22, is it safe to update to 7.6 now or better to continue waiting?

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                              @sparkwise it's safe to update.

                              @robi hundreds , if not thousands. But we don't have concrete numbers since we don't collect this information.

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                                To give an update here, we had to update all apps to the new base image 4.2.0 . Practically all apps are updated by now. We can now start rolling out 7.6 . Probably from thursday.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  To give an update here, we had to update all apps to the new base image 4.2.0 . Practically all apps are updated by now. We can now start rolling out 7.6 . Probably from thursday.

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                                  #25

                                  @girish why? Is there something breaking that might affect custom images (that are not using the latest base image) as well?

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                                    @girish why? Is there something breaking that might affect custom images (that are not using the latest base image) as well?

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                                    @msbt it's not breaking. we just wanted it out of the way so we can give the release our attention.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      To give an update here, we had to update all apps to the new base image 4.2.0 . Practically all apps are updated by now. We can now start rolling out 7.6 . Probably from thursday.

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                                      @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

                                      To give an update here, we had to update all apps to the new base image 4.2.0 . Practically all apps are updated by now. We can now start rolling out 7.6 . Probably from thursday.

                                      This was 22 days ago, still not started I guess?

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                                        7.6.1 was already out but we haven't started roll out yet. But it's safe to update.

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                                          There was an irritating bug in 7.6.1 with regards to the mail/redis issues which seem to be affecting multiple different areas such as the mail event logs too. Any ETA by any chance on when the 7.6.2 will be released as a beta at least for testing?

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                                          Dustin Dauncey
                                          www.d19.ca

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