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    nebulon
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    #17

    @cvachery correct, that should work.

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      It doesn't work but I think there is an issue in the config file generation as the template is not used

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        @cvachery what makes you think the template is not used? If there is some misconfiguration, maybe you can also just try to reinstall the app as it has no persistent data anyways.

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          I keep having the same error when trying to create a room

          Oops, Room not allowed
          This room is not allowed for this user
          

          My config.js file looks like this:

          // All options at https://github.com/miroslavpejic85/mirotalksfu/blob/main/app/src/config.template.js
          
          module.exports = {
              host: {
                  /*
                      Host Protection (default: false)
                      To enhance host security, enable host protection - user auth and provide valid
                      usernames and passwords in the users array.
                  */
                  protected: true,
                  user_auth: false,
                  users: [
                      /*
                      {
                          username: 'username',
                          password: 'password',
                      },
                      {
                          username: 'username2',
                          password: 'password2',
                      },
                      ...
                      */
                  ]
              },
              presenters: {
                  /*
                      By default, the presenter is identified as the first participant to join the room, distinguished by their username and UUID.
                      Additional layers can be added to specify valid presenters and co-presenters by setting designated usernames.
                  */
                  list: [],
                  join_first: true, // Set to true for traditional behavior, false to prioritize presenters
              }
          };
          

          And looking at the app repo here the config file should look quite different to be able to handle OIDC connection

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            In that case maybe just try to reinstall the app so it gets provisioned with a fresh config.js if the migration during update didn't work out for some reason.

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              The reinstall doesn't change the content of this file.
              And I don't see how it could be looking at the docker file but maybe I'm missing something

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                #23

                To be clear the file you were linking from the package repo is a wrapper for config.js which will read values from /app/data/config.js and merges it with Cloudron specific ones. Maybe this is where the confusion comes from?

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                  Yes I got that it's a wrapper but this wrapper is never used neither in the dockerfile or start.sh so I don't get when this merge is done

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                    That file overwrites the upstream config.js in https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/mirotalksfu-app/-/blob/main/Dockerfile?ref_type=heads#L13 and then loads the one in /app/data/config.js and then patches up the process internal config object. Only very specific config options are copied over though. For auth it is only those three essentially https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/mirotalksfu-app/-/blob/main/config.js?ref_type=heads#L20

                    But maybe to take a step back, whatever is specified regarding oidc in the /app/data/config.js will get overwritten during runtime. So that is probably not the root cause of the issue you are facing.

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                      You are right I misread the Dockerfile, thanks for pointing this out!

                      Maybe it would it be easier to have an example of a config.js file in the documentation.
                      I guess I'm not the only one failing to configure it 😕
                      Do I need to create an OpenID Connect Provider in my Cloudron user directory?

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                        #27

                        @cvachery I'm confused by this thread.

                        You shouldn't need to configue anything.

                        Just select the relevant User management settings when installing and Cloudron sets it all up, no? 🤔

                        Screenshot_20240701-160422_Firefox.png

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                          I did the same but ticked Allow all users from this Cloudron
                          Thing is @jdaviescoates by default anyone can create/join a room. But I want to restrict room creation to logged in users and anyone can join with the link.
                          And when activating those parameters is when problems arise.

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                            I did the same but ticked Allow all users from this Cloudron
                            Thing is @jdaviescoates by default anyone can create/join a room. But I want to restrict room creation to logged in users and anyone can join with the link.
                            And when activating those parameters is when problems arise.

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                              I did the same but ticked Allow all users from this Cloudron
                              Thing is @jdaviescoates by default anyone can create/join a room. But I want to restrict room creation to logged in users and anyone can join with the link.
                              And when activating those parameters is when problems arise.

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                              @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                              Thing is @jdaviescoates by default anyone can create/join a room. But I want to restrict room creation to logged in users and anyone can join with the link.

                              Ah, right. That ought to be default when choosing Cloudron user management, but I guess it isn't.

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                                @avatar1024 said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                Otherwise, while guest cannot enter the app base domain without a login, they can still create rooms freely by creating a url: mirotalkappprefix.mydomain.com/join/roomname

                                @MiroTalk is that behaviour intended?

                                Not a behaviour intended! I'm considering a refinement where guests are only allowed to join specified rooms that have already been created by authenticated users. This approach might offer better control and security. Will be released in the next version.

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                                #31

                                Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
                                Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific URL

                                @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                @avatar1024 said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                Otherwise, while guest cannot enter the app base domain without a login, they can still create rooms freely by creating a url: mirotalkappprefix.mydomain.com/join/roomname

                                @MiroTalk is that behaviour intended?

                                Not a behaviour intended! I'm considering a refinement where guests are only allowed to join specified rooms that have already been created by authenticated users. This approach might offer better control and security. Will be released in the next version.

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                                  Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
                                  Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific URL

                                  @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                  @avatar1024 said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                  Otherwise, while guest cannot enter the app base domain without a login, they can still create rooms freely by creating a url: mirotalkappprefix.mydomain.com/join/roomname

                                  @MiroTalk is that behaviour intended?

                                  Not a behaviour intended! I'm considering a refinement where guests are only allowed to join specified rooms that have already been created by authenticated users. This approach might offer better control and security. Will be released in the next version.

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                                  #32

                                  @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                  Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
                                  Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

                                  Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

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                                    #33

                                    Both packages are updated also now.

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                                    • MiroTalkM MiroTalk

                                      @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                      Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
                                      Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

                                      Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

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                                      Neiluj
                                      wrote on last edited by Neiluj
                                      #34

                                      @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                      @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                      Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
                                      Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

                                      Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

                                      Yeah I am still having issue with this / cannot figure out the correct settings to prevent anonymous user room creation.

                                      Basically, I am trying to limit room creation to registered Cloudron User, but still keep the possibility for anonymous users to join a room once created.

                                      At the moment, my MiroTalk SFU app has its cloudron setting access control set to "Only allow the following users and groups".

                                      I do have a custom config.js with the following:

                                          host: {
                                              /*
                                                  Host Protection (default: false)
                                                  To enhance host security, enable host protection - user auth and provide valid
                                                  usernames and passwords in the users array.
                                              */
                                              protected: true,
                                              user_auth: false,
                                              users: [
                                                  /*
                                                  {
                                                      username: 'username',
                                                      password: 'password',
                                                  },
                                                  {
                                                      username: 'username2',
                                                      password: 'password2',
                                                  },
                                                  ...
                                                  */
                                              ]
                                          },
                                      

                                      Yet room creation is still allowed for anonymous users.

                                      I could set user_auth to true and provider "provide valid usernames and passwords in the users array." as mentioned in the config.js comment, but my understanding is that this will void/conflict with the cloudron OIDC integration.

                                      Of course, I am likely missing something so I am wondering if anyone got this working properly and if/when so, what are the proper settings for preventing room creation by anonymous users.

                                      Many thanks,

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                                      • N Neiluj

                                        @MiroTalk said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                        @cvachery said in Use Cloudron Logins for host protected settings:

                                        Thanks to @MiroTalk in the latest version it works and the config is nearly perfect
                                        Only issue is still one identified erlier that anonymous users can create room if they go to the specific

                                        Should be fixed in both MiroTalk P2P v.1.3.79 & MiroTalk SFU v.1.5.80. Cheers.

                                        Yeah I am still having issue with this / cannot figure out the correct settings to prevent anonymous user room creation.

                                        Basically, I am trying to limit room creation to registered Cloudron User, but still keep the possibility for anonymous users to join a room once created.

                                        At the moment, my MiroTalk SFU app has its cloudron setting access control set to "Only allow the following users and groups".

                                        I do have a custom config.js with the following:

                                            host: {
                                                /*
                                                    Host Protection (default: false)
                                                    To enhance host security, enable host protection - user auth and provide valid
                                                    usernames and passwords in the users array.
                                                */
                                                protected: true,
                                                user_auth: false,
                                                users: [
                                                    /*
                                                    {
                                                        username: 'username',
                                                        password: 'password',
                                                    },
                                                    {
                                                        username: 'username2',
                                                        password: 'password2',
                                                    },
                                                    ...
                                                    */
                                                ]
                                            },
                                        

                                        Yet room creation is still allowed for anonymous users.

                                        I could set user_auth to true and provider "provide valid usernames and passwords in the users array." as mentioned in the config.js comment, but my understanding is that this will void/conflict with the cloudron OIDC integration.

                                        Of course, I am likely missing something so I am wondering if anyone got this working properly and if/when so, what are the proper settings for preventing room creation by anonymous users.

                                        Many thanks,

                                        MiroTalkM Away
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                                        MiroTalk
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #35

                                        @Neiluj If you have OIDC enabled, you can safely remove the entire host: { ... } section from your configuration. Simply rely on OIDC for authentication, and let me know if everything works as expected. Thank you!

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                                          nebulon
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          @Neiluj I just tried this here also with MiroTalk SFU and without changing the app configs manually, just install the app with Cloudron usermanagement enabled and then only authenticated users can create meetings, while everyone can join them with the share link.

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