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  • girishG girish

    I am still trying to figure out federation setup. If someone has insight into this, please leave a note here. It looks like we have to setup webfinger or equivalent?

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    murgero
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    wrote on last edited by murgero
    #7

    @girish isn't webfinger a thing already enabled in pixelfed? The only caveat I can see is pixelfed being installed to a subdomain but users are using main domain as username:

    Instance URL: pixelfed.example.com
    Username: @murgero@example.com

    The above requires webfinger to translate from the main domain afaik.

    As for federation - I believe just enabling ActivityPub (which it is already in the app afaik) it should just work so long as the URLs match:

    Instance URL: pixelfed.example.com
    Username: @murgero@pixelfed.example.com

    If someone else has an instance, can they PM me their profile URL? I'll try to follow you to see if federation is working properly.

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    • murgeroM murgero

      @girish isn't webfinger a thing already enabled in pixelfed? The only caveat I can see is pixelfed being installed to a subdomain but users are using main domain as username:

      Instance URL: pixelfed.example.com
      Username: @murgero@example.com

      The above requires webfinger to translate from the main domain afaik.

      As for federation - I believe just enabling ActivityPub (which it is already in the app afaik) it should just work so long as the URLs match:

      Instance URL: pixelfed.example.com
      Username: @murgero@pixelfed.example.com

      If someone else has an instance, can they PM me their profile URL? I'll try to follow you to see if federation is working properly.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      @murgero I've whacked up a test instance at images.uniteddiversity.coop so you could try jdaviescoates@images.uniteddiversity.coop (the only user I've created so far)

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @murgero I've whacked up a test instance at images.uniteddiversity.coop so you could try jdaviescoates@images.uniteddiversity.coop (the only user I've created so far)

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        murgero
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        wrote on last edited by murgero
        #9

        @jdaviescoates said in Pixelfed:

        jdaviescoates

        I tried tagging you - but it fails it looks like. (Tag for you AFAIK should be @jdaviescoates@images.uniteddiversity.coop)

        Edit: Though I THINK I followed successfully?

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        • murgeroM murgero

          @jdaviescoates said in Pixelfed:

          jdaviescoates

          I tried tagging you - but it fails it looks like. (Tag for you AFAIK should be @jdaviescoates@images.uniteddiversity.coop)

          Edit: Though I THINK I followed successfully?

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          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @murgero said in Pixelfed:

          Though I THINK I followed successfully?

          Indeed you did:

          following.png

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @murgero said in Pixelfed:

            Though I THINK I followed successfully?

            Indeed you did:

            following.png

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            murgero
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            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @jdaviescoates Safe to say federation is technically working, idk if it's working well tho - your server didn't poll my profile it looks like.

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              #12

              I read on the pixelfed matrix channel that in order to receive new posts you need to follow a person (obviously) and some person of that instance needs to follow you so that instance knows that your instance exists.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                @murgero said in Pixelfed:

                @jdaviescoates@images.uniteddiversity.coop

                Followed you also - took the search box a few tries to pull up your profile, but it finally kicked in!

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                • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                  @murgero said in Pixelfed:

                  @jdaviescoates@images.uniteddiversity.coop

                  Followed you also - took the search box a few tries to pull up your profile, but it finally kicked in!

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                  murgero
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @doodlemania2 huh - I don't see your follow.

                  I am going to reconfigure my instance with mastodon so we can test actual federation.

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                    murgero
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                    #15

                    Alright, please also follow @hyper@social.mobiledads.live - this is a known working instance of Mastodon, and I can debug connections from pixelfed as well.

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                    • murgeroM murgero

                      Alright, please also follow @hyper@social.mobiledads.live - this is a known working instance of Mastodon, and I can debug connections from pixelfed as well.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      @murgero said in Pixelfed:

                      @hyper@social.mobiledads.live

                      following new alias now!

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                        murgero
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                        #17

                        I am following back everyone that follows me. So if you need to debug federated follow, you can follow me as well!

                        I also just sent out a status update via mastodon so can any pixelfed users report if they see it?

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                          #18

                          You can add me too! @scooke@lenote.eu.

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                          • murgeroM murgero

                            I am following back everyone that follows me. So if you need to debug federated follow, you can follow me as well!

                            I also just sent out a status update via mastodon so can any pixelfed users report if they see it?

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @murgero said in Pixelfed:

                            I also just sent out a status update via mastodon so can any pixelfed users report if they see it?

                            Can't see it.

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              #20

                              To be honest I'm not getting what the heck is going on. I can see you are following me @jdaviescoates but when I click on you from within my Pixelfed dashboard, which brings me to your site, and see your pic and try to like it, I see that I am now not at my Pixelfed and apparently need to login to your Pixelfed instance to do anything. ? And I see nothing about Mastodon in my Pixelfed dashboard either.

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                                doodlemania2
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #21

                                While they use the same protocol, MD and PF are different so statuses I wouldn't think would share cross tools. No?

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                                • scookeS scooke

                                  To be honest I'm not getting what the heck is going on. I can see you are following me @jdaviescoates but when I click on you from within my Pixelfed dashboard, which brings me to your site, and see your pic and try to like it, I see that I am now not at my Pixelfed and apparently need to login to your Pixelfed instance to do anything. ? And I see nothing about Mastodon in my Pixelfed dashboard either.

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                                  murgero
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #22

                                  @scooke No, you should see their status / images in your own feed. ActivityPub is federated, decentralized sort of like bittorrent in a way. Everyone (or everyone you are connected to) gets a copy of the actor (in this case it's a pixelfed image status update)

                                  Ex:
                                  d851cc10-37a3-49a3-8c87-258b252e5e04-image.png (Not my image)

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                                  • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                                    While they use the same protocol, MD and PF are different so statuses I wouldn't think would share cross tools. No?

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                                    murgero
                                    App Dev
                                    wrote on last edited by murgero
                                    #23

                                    @doodlemania2 Both use activitypub and as such are compatible with each other. However the Unstable app here for Pixelfed in Cloudron's appstore has broken federation and it doesn't work more than like 80% of the time right now.

                                    Mastodon
                                    GNU/Social
                                    Pixelfed
                                    Pleroma
                                    Nextcloud via the social app.
                                    and more

                                    All use activitypub - Here is a large, but incomplete list of different service, scripts, and servers that can communicate via AP: https://github.com/BasixKOR/awesome-activitypub

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                                      #24

                                      It seems broken that I have to log in to someone else's Pixelfed instance to Like an image though. Or is this a 20% case of the federation not working? Seems counterintuitive to have to join someone's PF to interact with them.

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                                      • scookeS scooke

                                        It seems broken that I have to log in to someone else's Pixelfed instance to Like an image though. Or is this a 20% case of the federation not working? Seems counterintuitive to have to join someone's PF to interact with them.

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                                        murgero
                                        App Dev
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #25

                                        @scooke said in Pixelfed:

                                        It seems broken that I have to log in to someone else's Pixelfed instance to Like an image though

                                        You're doing it wrong. ActivityPub doesn't work like that - The issue here is federation is broken.

                                        There is no requirement to register and login to another server to send a like on an image in activitypub.

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                                        • murgeroM murgero

                                          @scooke said in Pixelfed:

                                          It seems broken that I have to log in to someone else's Pixelfed instance to Like an image though

                                          You're doing it wrong. ActivityPub doesn't work like that - The issue here is federation is broken.

                                          There is no requirement to register and login to another server to send a like on an image in activitypub.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #26

                                          @murgero said in Pixelfed:

                                          The issue here is federation is broken

                                          Do you know what is needed in the Cloudron package to fix this? Or is this an upstream app issue? I couldn't really find any information about pixelfed + federation on their site. If there is a link, I would love to see it.

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