Accessing email mailbox owned by a group

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 said in Accessing email mailbox owned by a group:

no need for the full email address right now.

But that only works if the email address and the email app have matching domains though, right? (at least that's what I worked out when testing).

[avatar1024]

@jdaviescoates Yes that's correct. It actually works exactly as desired from my point of you that is: use only prefix as the username and then it defaults to mailbox prefix@domainofthewebmailapp.

[andreasdueren]

@girish said in Accessing email mailbox owned by a group:

quite a long time ago, Cloudron used to create mailboxes named username@domain.com when you create a username.

Also unrelated but did anyone here ever automate this? Because that's a behavior I'd like to mimic because I'm only using one tld

[avatar1024]

@avatar1024 said in Accessing email mailbox owned by a group:

@jdaviescoates Yes that's correct. It actually works exactly as desired from my point of you that is: use only prefix as the username and then it defaults to mailbox prefix@domainofthewebmailapp.

@girish so do we know if the current behaviour is intended / something that is going to last (which I hope) as I'm writing guidance for an org on how to use their webmail?

Happy 2025 to Cloudron and to all of you who make it possible

[girish]

@avatar1024 We won't break it intentionally but this only works because the mail clients have the concept of a default domain. Since those apps haven't changed forever and neither have the cloudron packages (wrt this behavior), I think you can safely conclude this will continue working.

[bmann]

So, I'm getting back to this, and logging into third party clients (notably Mail.app on MacOS), currently does not work.

email: groupname@otherdomain
user: boris@domain
password:

Mail app says "account already exists", presumably because I'm using the same user / pass.

I can put whatever I like under email address. Changing username to organizers@dwebyvr.org doesn't work.

(works fine in Snappy mail)

[jdaviescoates]

@bmann said in Accessing email mailbox owned by a group:

user: boris@domain

I don't have a mac to test but wondering if boris+apple@domain might possibly work

[bmann]

@jdaviescoates it does not. Is +apple a setup thing in Cloudron? I've never heard of it.

[jdaviescoates]

@bmann no, but subaddresses work on Cloudron (and pretty much everywhere else too), see https://docs.cloudron.io/email/#subaddresses

[jdaviescoates]

@bmann said in Accessing email mailbox owned by a group:

Changing username to organizers@dwebyvr.org doesn't work

This is what I would've expected to work, because in every email client I've ever used the email address is the username.

[bmann]

OK, I finally worked on this AGAIN and remembered how messed up this is conceptually.

username: groupname@domain
password: (any one of the passwords of the people that have access)

This is also makes Freescout work for me https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12976/connection-could-not-be-established-with-host-mail-domain-com-connection-timed-out-110/43

A single "username" having multiple passwords is what messes me up every time.