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@nebulon Oh, I have no intention of moving from the cloud and have no reason to run it at home. It would just make my development flow for the OpenVPN Client app I'm working on faster since it'd be localhost (my everyday work laptop). But, like I said, due to the way you guys designed cloudron build and cloudron update, it's actually pretty fast even in the cloud. One of my favorite aspects about your platform so far - ease of development.

So I'll just keep doing that...well, I guess I could keep switching it back and forth, developing locally and then seeing how it performs in the cloud after the app is finished. I don't use Cloudron for anything production related right now, I'm just happily building apps to see how far we can take this platform. 🎉

@ruihildt Great take on it.

As an aside: There's other ways to contribute towards open-source, than with code or money.

Just using it and reporting issues and feature suggestions is also free labour, that closed-source projects would have to pay for, same for security-testing.

The way I see it is, I pay for things with my time, attention, faith, and opportunity-cost, and risk-taking. If I was making money from something, then I also pay with money.

There's many ways to be a free user and benefit a project, this whole community is also a great example of that symbiotic relationship.

@scooke said in Cloudron Pricing and Licensing Help:

I'm just thinking digitally here, but most fonts, Wordpress themes and plugins (and other paid themes and plugins), etc. are for one installation/project.

As you mention it, first fonts are not in the same category as Wordpress which carries a General Public License (GPL) which carries the obligation to ALL themes and plugins to be produce and distributed under the exact same condition, meaning they must be GPL as well.

Limiting the number of instance installation in the case of themes or plugins for Wordpress, or any FOSS which comes with such license of freedom, is among the biggest SCAM going on in this sphere right now, as this is a violation of the GPL license which, among other things, stipulate that once you have a copy, you can freely copy and distribute it under the same license's terms. Hence, technically speaking, if a wp theme developer does limits you in the number of instances you can install, then he's breaking the license himself which they still pretend to be GPL which is an absolute non-sense.

Clourdon is NOT GPL, nor even open source if I'm not mistaken, right now, even though most of the software part of the offer are. That's not a problem at all. simply because you do not absolutely need a Cloudron box to run any of the software offer which are coming with GPL. When one pays for either cPanel or Plesk the principle is the same, the prices are always PER INSTANCE, obviously, and that is even though they too offer GPL apps installation via their dashboard via Softaculous and the like.

My 2 cents worth, tale care 🙂
Andy

If Cloudron Dev were relicensing GPL code to MIT, it would be an issue indeed, but that's not the case.

FYI, not all Cloudron code is open source (FOSS).
I'm not happy about it, but it's a comprise I can take, like so many others I have already in my life. 😉

Working with non-profits, I wish Cloudron could be free for all of them, but I understand cloudron dev should be paid for their work. Maintaining up to date, developing features and adding apps for the platform is a lot of work and is difficult to do when you don't have money to live a decent life.

@kimmy I hope you can find a solution that works for you.

Our subscriptions are per Cloudron instance, so per server. We might add multihost or some kind of cluster feature in the future, but so far there was no strong focus on this yet.