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    • atrilahiji
      atrilahiji App Dev @robi last edited by

      @robi I'm throwing together a package now to test the process of making an app for Moodle. I'll see if I can automate more (I work on Moodle and surrounding apps for my job).

      As for your question, I am not sure what you mean exactly. I would generally suggest ALWAYS using an external source to store large files as Moodle handles is poorly. The institution I work at always recommends using something like Google Drive and then embedding the content.

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      • atrilahiji
        atrilahiji App Dev last edited by atrilahiji

        @robi @nebulon My initial commit is here. I didn't auto config anything for now. I will clean this up a bit later. For now, this should work though.

        https://git.cloudron.io/AtriLahiji/moodle

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        • robi
          robi @atrilahiji last edited by

          @atrilahiji Awesome! Thank you so much.

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          • atrilahiji
            atrilahiji App Dev @robi last edited by

            @robi np ๐Ÿ‘

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            • girish
              girish Staff last edited by

              @atrilahiji Sounds like an excellent start. BTW, I see you started out with Lamp app. It probably has a lot of superfluous stuff like FTP support etc. You can instead trim it down to be like say the https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/snipeit-app app or any of the other PHP apps. Thanks for working on this!

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              • atrilahiji
                atrilahiji App Dev @girish last edited by atrilahiji

                @girish Good suggestion! I'll look at the other PHP apps for reference. I know Moodle has a non interactive install process so im hoping to leverage that to automate this a bit. Right now its the LAMP stack with a pre-populated public folder. It just makes it slightly easier to deploy? I was going to say that BBB would be an amazing choice on top of this, as Moodle + BBB work quite well together. I know the greenlight app is being worked on but maybe someone can look at the BBB server too? (call to someone out there to help! :D)

                My schedule is very tight so it might take me a bit to get something proper working for Moodle. I will definitely welcome collaboration if anyone else would like to pitch in!

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                • robi
                  robi @atrilahiji last edited by robi

                  @atrilahiji isn't BigBlueButton (BBB) just a plugin for Moodle?
                  Looks like just a drop-in zip file.
                  https://docs.moodle.org/30/en/BigBlueButtonBN#Installation

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                  • atrilahiji
                    atrilahiji App Dev last edited by

                    @robi Thats a plugin to integrate with a BigBlueButton server. You'd still need to host the BBB server and then use that plugin to let instructors create sessions straight from the LMS.

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                    • marcusquinn
                      marcusquinn last edited by

                      ๐Ÿ‘ for a dedicated education app. Remote learning is certainly new ground to many and a Cloudron solution to that would be good for many organisations.

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                      • scooke
                        scooke @atrilahiji last edited by

                        @atrilahiji Thanks for doing this. I recently was running my Moodle in the LAMP app and it worked well. How will the packaged Moodle you're working on handle upgrades?

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                        • jdaviescoates
                          jdaviescoates @atrilahiji last edited by

                          @atrilahiji said in Moodle Open Source Learning Platform:

                          maybe someone can look at the BBB server too? (call to someone out there to help! :D)

                          I'm hoping that as soon as BBB 2.3 is released (which is compatible with Ubuntu 18.04 unlike the existing releases which still only run on 16.04!) @girish & @nebulon (& or others in the community) will begin packaging BBB.

                          See this thread:
                          https://forum.cloudron.io/post/1187

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                          • atrilahiji
                            atrilahiji App Dev @scooke last edited by atrilahiji

                            @scooke good question. It shouldnโ€™t be an issue as far as I can tell. Again the package needs a lot of work before itโ€™s ready but I imagine weโ€™d just swap out the contents of the public folder and it would trigger an upgrade when you go to the site.

                            Right now Iโ€™m trying to automate any config I can and perhaps get LDAP working??? The problem is it makes an admin account in the setup. Unsure how to get around that.

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                            • jdaviescoates
                              jdaviescoates @atrilahiji last edited by jdaviescoates

                              @atrilahiji said in Moodle Open Source Learning Platform:

                              The problem is it makes an admin account in the setup. Unsure how to get around that.

                              Quite a few apps on Cloudron do that.

                              Generally some initial set-up instructions are given at install for how to access the default admin account it creates, and then you login using that, change the password and make an LDAP user an admin too.

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                              • atrilahiji
                                atrilahiji App Dev last edited by atrilahiji

                                @robi @girish Made a couple of changes. Definitely open to feedback.

                                https://git.cloudron.io/AtriLahiji/moodle

                                Still need to figure out LDAP.

                                EDIT: Unsure if LDAP config is something I can automate. Perhaps I'll document it away unless someone else has any ideas.

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                                • atrilahiji
                                  atrilahiji App Dev last edited by

                                  I'm at a point with this that I'm quite comfortable with. I'd happily work on documentation for this if needed. What would be needed to have this added an official app? @nebulon @girish

                                  Only other things I can think of I guess are testing and proper upgrade support in start.sh?

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                                  • girish
                                    girish Staff last edited by

                                    I found this tool - https://moosh-online.com/commands/ . It seems to be able to install plugins via the plugin-install command.

                                    Thanks @atrilahiji . @nebulon and I will take a look sometime this week on how to move this forward and get it published.

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                                    • robi
                                      robi @atrilahiji last edited by

                                      @atrilahiji said in Moodle Open Source Learning Platform:

                                      @robi Thats a plugin to integrate with a BigBlueButton server. You'd still need to host the BBB server and then use that plugin to let instructors create sessions straight from the LMS.

                                      Oh I see, just like OnlyOffice with NextCloud. That begs the question, does Moodle integrate with NextCloud?

                                      The NextCloud Talk (spreed) audio/video is a great replacement for zoom/webex/kopano/jitsi!

                                      If so, no need for BBB.

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                                      • atrilahiji
                                        atrilahiji App Dev @robi last edited by atrilahiji

                                        @robi Looks like this is possible in core as of Moodle 3.6. Current latest is 3.9.2+.

                                        Source: https://moodle.com/news/nextcloud-integration-in-moodle-3-6-open-source-supporting-open-source/

                                        Looks like its only a repository, meaning it integrates with the file picker similar to local files and google drive.

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                                        • atrilahiji
                                          atrilahiji App Dev @girish last edited by

                                          @girish Thanks Girish! If theres anything I can do to take some weight off of you and @nebulon 's shoulders let me know. A part of my actual job is writing documentation for Moodle and Moodle administration ๐Ÿ‘€

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                                          • girish
                                            girish Staff last edited by

                                            @atrilahiji Yes, it will help if you can remove all the non-essential code from the app. I think because you started from the LAMP stack, there's lots of extra stuff:

                                            • Can remove the RPAF thing - https://git.cloudron.io/AtriLahiji/moodle/-/blob/master/Dockerfile#L34 (the whole section can be removed till line 44)
                                            • Remove phpMyAdmin (like 46-49)
                                            • Remove cron (line 51-54)
                                            • Remove iconcube (line 56-64)
                                            • You can even remove supervisor altogether and just straight run apache

                                            Same goes for start.sh.

                                            • Remove cron/phpmyadmin/credentials stuff. Line 16-57

                                            You can look at https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/directus-app for inspiration. Let us know if you need help!

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