What's coming in 8.0

[jdaviescoates]

@xet7 no, they mean running Cloudron without MongoDB and not using any apps that require it, but still being able to use everything else.

[girish]

What @jdaviescoates said. MongoDB will simply not run and when you try to install an app that requires mongodb, it will show an error message saying 'AVX is required'.

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

when you try to install an app that requires mongodb, it will show an error message saying 'AVX is required'.

Hopefully it'll actually say something a lot clearer than that given many will have no idea what that means. Like "Unfortunately you cannot install this app because it requires mongodb which is unable to run on your server because your server doesn't support AVX" so something.

[girish]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.

This is implemented now.

The memory limit now just specifies how much max RAM the app can use. Apps now use whatever swap is available in the system. We don't set any limits. From testing, this seems to be the best configuration.

CPU limit is the max percentage CPU app can use. 100% means all the cores. If you set it to 50%, it will only ever use half the cores max. By default, app can use, max CPU.

[girish]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

Support servers without AVX again.

When installed on servers without AVX, the MongoDB will just show as disabled like below. If you click restart button, it will show an error like below:

When you try to install an app that requires MongoDB:

[uwcrbc]

Regarding the various UI / Dashboard improvements, could I plea to also add something like this:
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8745/my-apps-dashboard-ux-tailoring-apps-category

This would make a significant difference in our approach in providing an apps portal.

In any case, the already mentioned upcoming changes sound great.

[girish]

deSEC integration is now implemented.

[girish]

Couple more features have landed:

• Ubuntu 24.04 LTS support
• Removed unbound as system resolver. unbound is still used internally and will get totally replaced in some future release. systemd-resolved will be the resolver for all the addon and app containers. mail container will continue to use unbound for DNSBL lookups.

[plusone-nick]

Regarding Dashboard features - can we get pretty much everything that https://dashy.to/ is doing? Really good reference

[necrevistonnezr]

@girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

• Removed unbound as system resolver.

I hope this will make things easier for you as a non-running unbound seems to be he source of so many reported errors in this forum….

[necrevistonnezr]

Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set

[girish]

@necrevistonnezr yeah, the top 3 issues are backups, unbound and graphs. Hopefully, we fix it all in 8.0 and we can retire

[nebulon]

@necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 8.0:

Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set

since we mostly use Firefox here, it is more related to those security/privacy extensions which are sometimes just too aggressive. Similarly the various privacy related chrome variants cause much side-effects

[AartJansen]

@necrevistonnezr whats wrong with firefox ?

[necrevistonnezr]

@AartJansen
A few of the many examples of bug reports that turned out to be Firefox: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/74973

[paradoxbound]

@necrevistonnezr
If they ban Firefox they have lost a customer.

[necrevistonnezr]

Oh, I guess the subtlety of the irony here was just too overwhelming

Also: I don't speak for the team, I'm just a customer.

[nebulon]

@paradoxbound said in What's coming in 8.0:

@necrevistonnezr
If they ban Firefox they have lost a customer.

Very unlikely we would do such a thing. I only use Firefox in fact. Issues with browsers are mainly due to privacy extensions not so much the browser itself. I guess Firefox users just happen to use more of those which makes it look like the browser has issues.

[krumel]

Hi,
I know developers rightfully hate nothing more than "are we there yet/when are you done" questions, but could you give a rough guess how far 8.0 is away currently?

We will need to move two servers and while we still got a bit of time a rough guess would enable us to decide if it's worth installing the current version or wait for 8.0 and do a clean Ubuntu 24.04 LTS(which would make a few other things easier for us). We are totally happy to wait (it's done when it's done), but I would hate to install two new installations and then 8.0 comes out 3 days later.

[nebulon]

Dark-mode for the filemanager has landed now for 8.0 also: