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    #13

    Having used both. ERPNext is a great idea and everything it says it is - but Odoo is fundamentally different in many ways.

    They both have value, it's not an either/or choice and I wouldn't dismiss Odoo because ERPNext claims to be equivalent, it's not.

    Plugins, GAP Accounting and Pivot Tables are all unique to Odoo.

    It's like comparing Ghost to Wordpress. Similar but also very different.

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    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

      Having used both. ERPNext is a great idea and everything it says it is - but Odoo is fundamentally different in many ways.

      They both have value, it's not an either/or choice and I wouldn't dismiss Odoo because ERPNext claims to be equivalent, it's not.

      Plugins, GAP Accounting and Pivot Tables are all unique to Odoo.

      It's like comparing Ghost to Wordpress. Similar but also very different.

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      #14

      @samir Any progress update on this?

      Do you need help?

      Did you see my issue mentioned above?

      What will it take to roll this out with a newer version?

      Would it work to replace the shell script in your Cloudron package with one that points towards Odoo v14?
      Here is the script: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript/blob/14.0/odoo_install.sh

      @girish Would you know the answer?

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      • M makemrproper

        @samir Any progress update on this?

        Do you need help?

        Did you see my issue mentioned above?

        What will it take to roll this out with a newer version?

        Would it work to replace the shell script in your Cloudron package with one that points towards Odoo v14?
        Here is the script: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript/blob/14.0/odoo_install.sh

        @girish Would you know the answer?

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        @makemrproper We are not working on it, no. Maybe @samir is

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        • girishG girish

          @makemrproper We are not working on it, no. Maybe @samir is

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          @girish @nebulon Having this app on Cloudron would be ... awesome.

          It seems to be one of the best, complete and fastest for ecommerce and website building. It is an all-in-one app. WOW.

          I hope to have it in Cloudron.

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          • mdreiraM mdreira

            @girish @nebulon Having this app on Cloudron would be ... awesome.

            It seems to be one of the best, complete and fastest for ecommerce and website building. It is an all-in-one app. WOW.

            I hope to have it in Cloudron.

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            @mdreira I've not used Odoo much myself, but the one time I did have a little poke around I found eg their web builder to be very basic with a pretty terrible UX to be honest.

            Of course Odoo has loads of other plugins/ features too, but I still think that WordPress + WooCommerce is still prabably the best/ easiest open source option for eCommerce (hence that's why I think over a 1/3 of all eCommerce sites are powered by WooCommerce)

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @mdreira I've not used Odoo much myself, but the one time I did have a little poke around I found eg their web builder to be very basic with a pretty terrible UX to be honest.

              Of course Odoo has loads of other plugins/ features too, but I still think that WordPress + WooCommerce is still prabably the best/ easiest open source option for eCommerce (hence that's why I think over a 1/3 of all eCommerce sites are powered by WooCommerce)

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              @jdaviescoates Odoo is not primarily a website builder for ecommerce to run a webshop. It is a fully fledged ERP with loads of functionality to operate a business. It would be a major value add if Cloudron team would package it and get it onto the Cloudron appstore. It would definitely attract paying Cloudron customers.

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              • M makemrproper

                @jdaviescoates Odoo is not primarily a website builder for ecommerce to run a webshop. It is a fully fledged ERP with loads of functionality to operate a business. It would be a major value add if Cloudron team would package it and get it onto the Cloudron appstore. It would definitely attract paying Cloudron customers.

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                #19

                Latest major version of Odoo Open Source is now v14

                "One click" install script by a community contributor: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript

                Edit: Release notes:

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                • M makemrproper

                  Great! Somebody is taking action. Fantastic.

                  But please note @girish @samir - The current work focuses on packaging an old version of Odoo!
                  For some reason it is being packaged for Odoo version 10.
                  In that case release a package for all the latest 4 major versions 10, 11, 12 and 13
                  Latest version (2020) is version 13.
                  Issue: https://git.cloudron.io/altsyst/odoo-ce-app/issues/1
                  https://git.cloudron.io/altsyst/odoo-ce-app/issues/1

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                  @makemrproper Now the latest stable version is Odoo 15. It was released a few days ago.

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                  • G GustavoMarcante

                    Instead of Odoo, I suggest Flectra:
                    https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1403/flectra-erp-and-cms-an-open-source-alternative-do-odoo

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                    @gustavomarcante said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

                    Instead of Odoo, I suggest Flectra:
                    https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1403/flectra-erp-and-cms-an-open-source-alternative-do-odoo

                    Thank you for mentioning Flectra!

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                      I've been a longtime user of Odoo community edition, it's the best ERP out there. But setup is always a pain. Having this available on Cloudron would make it worth a business subscription. This one gets my vote!

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                      • ww4W ww4

                        I've been a longtime user of Odoo community edition, it's the best ERP out there. But setup is always a pain. Having this available on Cloudron would make it worth a business subscription. This one gets my vote!

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                        @ww4 Have you looked at Flectra? It is a fork of Odoo and they state their intention is to be more supportive of Freedom.

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                          @ww4 Have you looked at Flectra? It is a fork of Odoo and they state their intention is to be more supportive of Freedom.

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                          @loudlemur I wasn't aware of it until today, it seems they are a very close fork of Odoo... too close for Odoo's comfort in some cases! Here is the #3 on Google search for "flectra": https://www.odoo.com/page/flectra-vs-odoo-flectrahq-enterprise

                          At any rate, if Cloudron supports either one it should be possible to support both, as they are so similar.

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                            Open source ERP and CRM

                            https://www.odoo.com/
                            https://github.com/odoo/odoo.

                            https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/app-requests/issues/8

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                            I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                            Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                            I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                            Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                            cloudoron build
                            cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                            

                            Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                            Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                              I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                              Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                              I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                              Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                              cloudoron build
                              cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                              

                              Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                              Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                              @nj Oh, this is awesome! Would be great to see someone try this and give some feedback on how well this works.

                              What do you think is the "status" of the package otherwise?

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                              • njN nj

                                I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                cloudoron build
                                cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                

                                Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                @nj Quick feedback after I invested 60 minutes in Odoo as a Cloudron app:
                                Instead of an error message, a big 👍
                                The installation runs smoothly and without any problems. Yes, you are right: LDAP does not work.
                                Also the typical problems with uploading images or modules, do not exist in your package. Top.

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                                • njN nj

                                  I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                  Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                  I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                  Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                  cloudoron build
                                  cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                  

                                  Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                  Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                  mdreira
                                  translator
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                                  #28

                                  @nj WOW!! The entire community will be eternally grateful to you for starting this great challenge. 👏

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                                  • njN nj

                                    I have packaged Odoo successfully.
                                    Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

                                    I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

                                    Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

                                    cloudoron build
                                    cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
                                    

                                    Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

                                    Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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                                    luckow
                                    translator
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                                    @nj The only negative point as far as I can see so far: Your Odoo version is too new 😉
                                    The OCA module shop for version 15 is almost empty.
                                    https://odoo-community.org/shop?version=19

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                                    • luckowL luckow

                                      @nj The only negative point as far as I can see so far: Your Odoo version is too new 😉
                                      The OCA module shop for version 15 is almost empty.
                                      https://odoo-community.org/shop?version=19

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                                      @luckow Interesting, why is that? Because people have not ported over to odoo 15?

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                                        @nj The only negative point as far as I can see so far: Your Odoo version is too new 😉
                                        The OCA module shop for version 15 is almost empty.
                                        https://odoo-community.org/shop?version=19

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                                        @luckow This is a very good point!

                                        @nj With Odoo, because of the nature of what it is, it makes sense to have separate apps for each whole-number version, because whole-number version updates are quite a big deal in ERP stacks with lots of 3rd-party add-ons to test each time.

                                        Certainly appreciating your time on this, but to make it more likely to be adopted and also attract more Cloudron users with it being a hosting setup option, if you had time, it would make sense to have an App Package for each of the latest 3 whole-number versions, perhaps even more.

                                        People really do get stuck on ERP whole number versions sometimes , when they don't have the available resources to upgrade, they often just don't take the risk if it's not hurting them.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @luckow Interesting, why is that? Because people have not ported over to odoo 15?

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                                          @girish yes. Normal for community contributions 🙂
                                          The "official" odoo (so called) apps are v15 ready. But there is a module wonderland through community contributions.
                                          This is "official" odoo -> https://www.odoo.com/ with its enterprise and paid plan.
                                          This is odoo community -> https://odoo-community.org with its association and software contribution.

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