Odoo - distributed business apps

[jdaviescoates]

@mdreira I've not used Odoo much myself, but the one time I did have a little poke around I found eg their web builder to be very basic with a pretty terrible UX to be honest.

Of course Odoo has loads of other plugins/ features too, but I still think that WordPress + WooCommerce is still prabably the best/ easiest open source option for eCommerce (hence that's why I think over a 1/3 of all eCommerce sites are powered by WooCommerce)

[makemrproper]

@jdaviescoates Odoo is not primarily a website builder for ecommerce to run a webshop. It is a fully fledged ERP with loads of functionality to operate a business. It would be a major value add if Cloudron team would package it and get it onto the Cloudron appstore. It would definitely attract paying Cloudron customers.

[makemrproper]

Latest major version of Odoo Open Source is now v14

"One click" install script by a community contributor: https://github.com/Yenthe666/InstallScript

Edit: Release notes:

[LoudLemur]

@makemrproper Now the latest stable version is Odoo 15. It was released a few days ago.

[LoudLemur]

@gustavomarcante said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

Instead of Odoo, I suggest Flectra:
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1403/flectra-erp-and-cms-an-open-source-alternative-do-odoo

Thank you for mentioning Flectra!

[ww4]

I've been a longtime user of Odoo community edition, it's the best ERP out there. But setup is always a pain. Having this available on Cloudron would make it worth a business subscription. This one gets my vote!

[LoudLemur]

@ww4 Have you looked at Flectra? It is a fork of Odoo and they state their intention is to be more supportive of Freedom.

[ww4]

@loudlemur I wasn't aware of it until today, it seems they are a very close fork of Odoo... too close for Odoo's comfort in some cases! Here is the #3 on Google search for "flectra": https://www.odoo.com/page/flectra-vs-odoo-flectrahq-enterprise

At any rate, if Cloudron supports either one it should be possible to support both, as they are so similar.

[nj]

I have packaged Odoo successfully.
Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

cloudoron build
cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>

Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

[girish]

@nj Oh, this is awesome! Would be great to see someone try this and give some feedback on how well this works.

What do you think is the "status" of the package otherwise?

[luckow]

@nj Quick feedback after I invested 60 minutes in Odoo as a Cloudron app:
Instead of an error message, a big
The installation runs smoothly and without any problems. Yes, you are right: LDAP does not work.
Also the typical problems with uploading images or modules, do not exist in your package. Top.

[mdreira]

@nj WOW!! The entire community will be eternally grateful to you for starting this great challenge.

[luckow]

@nj The only negative point as far as I can see so far: Your Odoo version is too new
The OCA module shop for version 15 is almost empty.
https://odoo-community.org/shop?version=19

[girish]

@luckow Interesting, why is that? Because people have not ported over to odoo 15?

[marcusquinn]

@luckow This is a very good point!

@nj With Odoo, because of the nature of what it is, it makes sense to have separate apps for each whole-number version, because whole-number version updates are quite a big deal in ERP stacks with lots of 3rd-party add-ons to test each time.

Certainly appreciating your time on this, but to make it more likely to be adopted and also attract more Cloudron users with it being a hosting setup option, if you had time, it would make sense to have an App Package for each of the latest 3 whole-number versions, perhaps even more.

People really do get stuck on ERP whole number versions sometimes , when they don't have the available resources to upgrade, they often just don't take the risk if it's not hurting them.

[luckow]

@girish yes. Normal for community contributions
The "official" odoo (so called) apps are v15 ready. But there is a module wonderland through community contributions.
This is "official" odoo -> https://www.odoo.com/ with its enterprise and paid plan.
This is odoo community -> https://odoo-community.org with its association and software contribution.

[nj]

@luckow I've pushed a fix for LDAP Login. I had to map cn to displayName, and use a proper LDAP filter. I was able to immediately log in after installing Odoo.

However, there are two issues:

1. You have to log in with email and password. When I tried to have it login with both username and email, Odoo was creating two different users - one with the email and another one with the username.

2. Odoo throws a Server Error on the first login for a user from LDAP. From the second time, the error is not raised for the same user. Simply reload the page to "resend" the email/password, or log in again.
I spent some time debugging, but couldn't fix it. Looks like a bug in the record cache system of Odoo. If anyone is interested, I have opened an issue.

[nj]

@girish I'd say it is ready to be released as an unstable app. I tried restarting, reinstalling, updating, etc, and everything is working fine. I'm still unsure whether to keep the IMAP settings or remove it, because recvmail is mostly deprecated.

As other members said, there will be missing out on a lot of community addons but sooner or later they will be updated to support the latest Odoo version.

[girish]

@nj said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

@girish I'd say it is ready to be released as an unstable app. I tried restarting, reinstalling, updating, etc, and everything is working fine. I'm still unsure whether to keep the IMAP settings or remove it, because recvmail is mostly deprecated.

recvmail got un-deprecated and is back in the last release. But I wouldn't worry about that part yet since it's not critical to get the app published. I already have your outline app on my TODO list, so I will get to this after that. Thanks!

[LoudLemur]

@nj If this is made available as a beta app in Cloudron, I will test it and give feedback.

Thank you incredibly for helping make this very powerful Free Software available to a much wider number of users. I think that including Odoo Community Edition on Cloudron will showcase the functionality that Cloudron can deliver. Well done!

If you have managed to make Odoo 15 work, I think both Flectra and LibreERP could be deployed in the same way. LibreERP is based on a much earlier version of Odoo, v11, I think.

This is great news.