Backblaze "Snapshot" folder: multiple file copies retained

[robi]

Another option would be to use a storage node, and either run another Cloudron with Minio, or just Minio as the generic S3 backup.

I run the former. It's also flawless.

[p44]

@robi Interesting, but for a backup I think is better to rely to outside service provider than a self hosted instance on Minio.

[humptydumpty]

@p44 @robi that's not a bad idea, actually. I always disliked the fact that my backups are with a 3rd party, but thought it's "OK" since it's pass-protected. I think I'm going to go with a combo of the two, iDrive e2 for regular apps and Minio for the sensitive ones like Vaultwarden, Nextcloud, etc. I can't wait for the multi-backup destination update.

BTW, any idea if it's possible to "easily" run two Cloudrons on the same network? By easily, I mean not going through a complicated set up that's over my technical skills, or introduce another weak/fail point. I'd like to have a dedicated server in-house for Minio only instead of having it reside on one of my existing homeservers (have one at home and at work).

And I just remembered why I've been procrastinating, I've been WAITING for multi-backup destination

[p44]

@humptydumpty we all are waiting for multi-backup destination and, eventually, for Sshfs integrity check.

iDrive e2 is going very good, since 48hours installing that service.

A question for you: do you encrypt backups? If yes, Vaultwarden should be "safe" also on a 3rd party service...

[humptydumpty]

@p44 Yes, definitely. I'm backing up all my apps to BB all pass-protected including VW. But, why take the extra risk when I can have it on-premise?

BTW, 48 hours is too short of a time to tell. Please let me know if you end up having a "failed backup" notification in coming weeks.

[p44]

@humptydumpty Yes, 48 hours is too short, let's see what will happens ... of course I'll inform in case of "failed backup".

[humptydumpty]

I just noticed BB's pricing has changed to have a bare minimum $6/TB/mo charge. I wonder if they're deliberately causing the failed backups to kick me off the grandfathered plan

[p44]

@humptydumpty Or, more likely, they've limited resources for those with legacy plans... Who knows...

Anyway, by doing this they lose customers...

It's no longer the cost of $5 or $6 per TB, but the hidden cost of time to have to examine all the failed uploads that time out (and lately it was happening almost every day).

Failed backups, plus multiple file copies retained, they led me to change...

[p44]

@humptydumpty Check this post about Minio: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/13844/minio-removing-the-interface-for-community-edition

[humptydumpty]

@p44 well, that s*cks.

[robi]

@humptydumpty @p44 it won't make a difference for Cloudron backups.

[p44]

@humptydumpty After a week, more or less, I can confirm: with iDrive e2 no any failed backup...

[humptydumpty]

@p44 Perfect Thanks for the follow-up.

[p44]

@humptydumpty hello, after about 20 days from last post, and about one month about use, I've a negative feedback to share about iDrive e2.

I experienced an unplanned outage on EU (Frankfurt) data center.

Service was down, yet their status page showed "All Operational."

No prior notice or updates during the outage. I had to contact support to even confirm the issue.

Support acknowledged the problem but provided no clear timeline or explanation.

As a new customer, this kind of lack of transparency and communication makes me question their reliability.

Of course, I'm looking for alternatives...

[humptydumpty]

@p44 It seems to be a trend in the hosting world. I ran into the same issue with Contabo, but unlike iDrive, they kept denying the outage Thanks for sharing!

[p44]

@humptydumpty Thanks for your answer.

Wow... also with Contabo?

[humptydumpty]

@p44 They're okay to use for non-critical stuff where SPEED and reliability are not a concern. I used their US servers. Maybe the EU ones are better. I had the NVME plan and it reported HDD speeds. I switched to Hetzner dedicated vCPU (cheapest plan) and it's rock solid (US EAST servers).

[p44]

@humptydumpty Thank's, so you have Hetzner dedicated vCPU with eg. Minio?

[humptydumpty]

@p44 No, the Hetzner VPS is hosting my "front-facing" apps. The idea is was to use Minio to back up apps like Nextcloud and Navidrome (too large and expensive to upload to 3rd party). Currently, all 3 servers are being backed up to Backblaze with the larger apps having auto-backups disabled! I know, I know, not the wisest move but will have to do until we get multi-backup destinations. Ideally, I'd like to backup NC to an external NVME drive, just to be able to "restore" in case of a botched update. I'm not worried about data loss as the files are synced across multiple devices any way.

[p44]

@humptydumpty Thanks for your interesting info's. I'm looking around to find an alternative to iDrive e2. After more than 4 days they still didn't give me any infos or updates about what happened...