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  • jamesJ Offline
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    james
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    wrote last edited by
    #11

    Hello @kubernetes

    In the announcement https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/15174/community-apps we have linked the documentation.
    Follow the Packaging documentation and Publishing.

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    • jamesJ Offline
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      wrote last edited by
      #12

      Hello @kubernetes

      If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation, please let me know so we can improve further.

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      • jamesJ james

        Hello @kubernetes

        If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation, please let me know so we can improve further.

        timconsidineT Offline
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        timconsidine
        App Dev
        wrote last edited by
        #13

        @james

        Spread the word
        
        Post about new packages in the App Packaging & Development category of the forum.
        

        Personally I think that category should remain more technical, devs needing assistance / having questions.

        You published a different category : https://forum.cloudron.io/category/220/community-apps

        I think that is where the word should be spread.

        Just my 2p.

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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        • jamesJ Offline
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          james
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          wrote last edited by
          #14

          Hello @timconsidine
          Good point.
          Will update the documentation.

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          • jamesJ james

            Hello @kubernetes

            If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation, please let me know so we can improve further.

            timconsidineT Offline
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            timconsidine
            App Dev
            wrote last edited by
            #15

            @james said:

            If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation ...

            Just getting my head around the workflow, and I like to "spell things out" :


            • build the Community App (previously known as a Custom App) ✅
              (my 'old fashioned' approach : docker build, docker push, cloudron install, probably keep doing that because my build script does it, don't fix what ain't broke)

            • make a CloudronVersions.json file
              ✅
              same folder as project dev folder (Dockerfile, start.sh, CloudronManifest.json, README.md, POSTINSTALL.md etc.)
              • cloudron versions init
              • cloudron versions add
              • maybe add to my build script

            • why "CloudronVersions" in the plural ?
              🤷
              I guess Cloudron thinking is that a Community App might have v1.0.0, v1.0.1, v2.0.0
              Very complete approach, lovely 👍
              but with cloudron versions revoke I wonder if this will ever be in true in practice (I would likely revoke every old version).

            • upload CloudronVersions.json to static hosting
              ✅ gotcha 👍
              but if I have 10 Custom oops Community Apps, what is Cloudron team envisioning :
              • that I will have 10 Surfer apps (app1.tim.uk, app2.tim.uk, etc) ?

              • Or 1 sectioned Surfer app (communityapps.tim.uk) ?

              • Or no Surfer apps and just stick CloudronVersions.json in the relevant git repo (urls to files from git are not always clear) ?

              • I guess you probably don't care, but I'm intrigued what your expectations are


            Cloudron CLI help typo ?

            % cloudron versions --help 
            Usage: cloudron-versions [options] [command]
            

            Hyphenated ?


            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              @james said:

              If you find something unclear of lacking in the documentation ...

              Just getting my head around the workflow, and I like to "spell things out" :


              • build the Community App (previously known as a Custom App) ✅
                (my 'old fashioned' approach : docker build, docker push, cloudron install, probably keep doing that because my build script does it, don't fix what ain't broke)

              • make a CloudronVersions.json file
                ✅
                same folder as project dev folder (Dockerfile, start.sh, CloudronManifest.json, README.md, POSTINSTALL.md etc.)
                • cloudron versions init
                • cloudron versions add
                • maybe add to my build script

              • why "CloudronVersions" in the plural ?
                🤷
                I guess Cloudron thinking is that a Community App might have v1.0.0, v1.0.1, v2.0.0
                Very complete approach, lovely 👍
                but with cloudron versions revoke I wonder if this will ever be in true in practice (I would likely revoke every old version).

              • upload CloudronVersions.json to static hosting
                ✅ gotcha 👍
                but if I have 10 Custom oops Community Apps, what is Cloudron team envisioning :
                • that I will have 10 Surfer apps (app1.tim.uk, app2.tim.uk, etc) ?

                • Or 1 sectioned Surfer app (communityapps.tim.uk) ?

                • Or no Surfer apps and just stick CloudronVersions.json in the relevant git repo (urls to files from git are not always clear) ?

                • I guess you probably don't care, but I'm intrigued what your expectations are


              Cloudron CLI help typo ?

              % cloudron versions --help 
              Usage: cloudron-versions [options] [command]
              

              Hyphenated ?


              girishG Offline
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              girish
              Staff
              wrote last edited by girish
              #16

              @timconsidine said:

              upload CloudronVersions.json to static hosting

              I think if the packaging code is public, it makes much sense to keep it in version control itself. If packaging code is private, you can upload it to surfer. In the case latter case, I would just have 1 surfer instance for all the apps that I would publish.

              Cloudron CLI help typo ?

              This is quirk of commander. Which incidentally, I just fixed yesterday - https://git.cloudron.io/platform/cloudron-cli/-/commit/a926a848400de22ddaae30f2139e0556e9461f80

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              • timconsidineT Offline
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                timconsidine
                App Dev
                wrote last edited by timconsidine
                #17

                @James

                % cloudron versions add
                Error: Bad changelog format or missing changelog for this version
                

                'CHANGELOG' is present :

                * 1.0.0
                - Initial release
                

                But I don't see any mention in cloudron docs what format is expected.

                Maybe error is because this test community app has a CloudronManifest.json entry of :

                "changelog": "file://CHANGELOG",
                

                Does 'cloudron versions add' not recognise/support this way of doing it ?


                EDIT : I changed CloudronManifest.json to read :

                  "changelog": "v1.0.0 - Initial release",
                

                Then 'cloudron versions add' worked

                Not suggesting anything needs fixing as such. But potential mismatch of usage. Simple text string is easier - but it won't be practical for complex changelog descriptions.

                And this cheat works :

                 "changelog": "see CHANGELOG",
                

                Not sure I should be cheating, but ...

                'cloudron versions add' seems to handle 'file://POSTINSTALL.md' but not 'file://CHANGELOG'

                Being creative, I tried this, thinking POSTINSTALL.md worked with file name extension.

                "changelog": "file://CHANGELOG.md",
                

                But it does not.
                Seems like 'cloudron versions' treats the entries differently.

                Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  @James

                  % cloudron versions add
                  Error: Bad changelog format or missing changelog for this version
                  

                  'CHANGELOG' is present :

                  * 1.0.0
                  - Initial release
                  

                  But I don't see any mention in cloudron docs what format is expected.

                  Maybe error is because this test community app has a CloudronManifest.json entry of :

                  "changelog": "file://CHANGELOG",
                  

                  Does 'cloudron versions add' not recognise/support this way of doing it ?


                  EDIT : I changed CloudronManifest.json to read :

                    "changelog": "v1.0.0 - Initial release",
                  

                  Then 'cloudron versions add' worked

                  Not suggesting anything needs fixing as such. But potential mismatch of usage. Simple text string is easier - but it won't be practical for complex changelog descriptions.

                  And this cheat works :

                   "changelog": "see CHANGELOG",
                  

                  Not sure I should be cheating, but ...

                  'cloudron versions add' seems to handle 'file://POSTINSTALL.md' but not 'file://CHANGELOG'

                  Being creative, I tried this, thinking POSTINSTALL.md worked with file name extension.

                  "changelog": "file://CHANGELOG.md",
                  

                  But it does not.
                  Seems like 'cloudron versions' treats the entries differently.

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                  girish
                  Staff
                  wrote last edited by girish
                  #18

                  @timconsidine I will fix the docs but the changelog file format file://CHANGELOG.md is:

                  [version]
                  * change 1
                  * change 2
                  

                  The CLI tool reads the changelog file from the above format and then populated manifest accordingly into the versions file.

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                  • timconsidineT Offline
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                    timconsidine
                    App Dev
                    wrote last edited by timconsidine
                    #19

                    @girish
                    Ah, looking at output of 'cloudron versions add' in CloudronVersions.json, I see !

                    There is background processing/expectations, pulling only the changlog content for that version.

                    Neat ! But opaque pending docs clarification.

                    Still not sure how it will work in practice with long changelog entries, but good discipline and neat handling.

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      @girish
                      Ah, looking at output of 'cloudron versions add' in CloudronVersions.json, I see !

                      There is background processing/expectations, pulling only the changlog content for that version.

                      Neat ! But opaque pending docs clarification.

                      Still not sure how it will work in practice with long changelog entries, but good discipline and neat handling.

                      girishG Offline
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                      girish
                      Staff
                      wrote last edited by
                      #20

                      @timconsidine it's following the same format as our existing appstore apps. For example, one of our longtime packages - https://git.cloudron.io/packages/gitlab-app/-/blob/master/CHANGELOG?ref_type=heads

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                      • girishG Offline
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                        Staff
                        wrote last edited by
                        #21

                        OK, updated https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/manifest/#changelog

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