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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

    @savity As an alternative, you can achieve pretty-much the same thing with EspoCRM, as that will import emails to give you the same duplicate data in an alternative place.

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    @marcusquinn said in Mailpiler - self hosted email archive:

    @savity As an alternative, you can achieve pretty-much the same thing with EspoCRM, as that will import emails to give you the same duplicate data in an alternative place.

    With full text search of mails and attachments? Can this be used for continuous backup?

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    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

      @marcusquinn said in Mailpiler - self hosted email archive:

      @savity As an alternative, you can achieve pretty-much the same thing with EspoCRM, as that will import emails to give you the same duplicate data in an alternative place.

      With full text search of mails and attachments? Can this be used for continuous backup?

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      @necrevistonnezr full text search of emails, yes. Attachment searching I don't think so but it could be possible as we're using this full-time for 100+ users, so there's some value in us developing anything that isn't there. Sure, just add connection details and it will keep importing emails regardless of if you login or not.

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      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

        @savity As an alternative, you can achieve pretty-much the same thing with EspoCRM, as that will import emails to give you the same duplicate data in an alternative place.

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        @marcusquinn does it import automaticly ? have to check it

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          @marcusquinn does it import automaticly ? have to check it

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          @savity Yes, and it's already an Cloudron packaged and maintained app. I recommend it in many ways.

          We also have Mailpiler packaged but not yet adopted by the Cloudron team, but have not pursued it further, since Espo is covering our needs.

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          Development https://brandlight.org
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            Hello, I'm glad to see that there was an initial work adding piler to the app store.
            I've got a request recently from a Cloudron user that he wanted to use piler archiving. Can you update me about the current status about this initiative? Whether it's still relevant, or you need some help from my side, etc.

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              • https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/mailpiler

              It works for us, just need adopting by Cloudron with tests and app store inclusion.

              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
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              • jsutoJ jsuto

                Hello, I'm the maintainer of the piler project. Since this topic is 2+ years old, I'm not sure, if there's an interest to have piler as a cloudron app. Anyway, the application is already dockerized, see https://bitbucket.org/jsuto/piler/src/master/docker/ for more.

                Basically it's a 3 container setup having mysql, memcached and piler. I believe that it can be customized to run on cloudron.

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                LoudLemur
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                @jsuto Thanks for mailpiler. What is the password for the demo? This ought to be written somewhere... more obvious...

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                  @jsuto Thanks for mailpiler. What is the password for the demo? This ought to be written somewhere... more obvious...

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                  @LoudLemur When you visit https://demo.mailpiler.com/ you may find several account in the username:password format, eg.

                  admin@local:pilerrocks
                  auditor@local:auditor
                  fedora@redhat.com:redhat
                  external@local:external

                  Let me know if you have any further questions.

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn
                    • https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/mailpiler

                    It works for us, just need adopting by Cloudron with tests and app store inclusion.

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                    @marcusquinn It's great news! Can you tell me whom should I contact to progress further?

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                    • jsutoJ jsuto

                      @marcusquinn It's great news! Can you tell me whom should I contact to progress further?

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                      #63

                      @jsuto I think that'll be the @appdev Group for community assistance finishing this, or @girish if he's interested in adding it to the App Store.

                      Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                      Development https://brandlight.org
                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                      • jsutoJ jsuto

                        @marcusquinn It's great news! Can you tell me whom should I contact to progress further?

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                        @jsuto said in Mailpiler - self hosted email archive:

                        @marcusquinn It's great news! Can you tell me whom should I contact to progress further?

                        I guess @staff would just need to give you access to https://git.cloudron.io/vladimir.d/mailpiler

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          @jsuto I think that'll be the @appdev Group for community assistance finishing this, or @girish if he's interested in adding it to the App Store.

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                          @marcusquinn @vladimir-d I have missed this one. Shall I move this to cloudron namespace and publish as unstable?

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                          • girishG girish

                            @marcusquinn @vladimir-d I have missed this one. Shall I move this to cloudron namespace and publish as unstable?

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                            @girish Sure, it's relatively simple and appears to work as intended. Testing from others would help.

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                            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                              @girish Sure, it's relatively simple and appears to work as intended. Testing from others would help.

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                              @marcusquinn thanks, I can get this published. @vladimir-d can you please put a license?

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                              • girishG girish

                                @marcusquinn thanks, I can get this published. @vladimir-d can you please put a license?

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                                @girish yay ! Thank you.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  @marcusquinn thanks, I can get this published. @vladimir-d can you please put a license?

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                                  @girish the License has been added to the repository.
                                  Please feel free to change anything if needed.

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @marcusquinn thanks, I can get this published. @vladimir-d can you please put a license?

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                                    @girish First of of all, a huge thank you to all participants. This is huge step for seriuos mail providing especially in germany.... but, maybe I don't see the obvious. As it is published... am I able to install it via the appstore? Or do I have to use the cli route mentioned in vladimirs readme?

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                                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                      http://www.mailpiler.org

                                      Email archiving provides lots of benefits to your company. Piler is a feature rich open source email archiving solution, and a viable alternative to commercial email archiving products; check out the comparison with Mailarchiva.
                                      Piler has a nice GUI written in PHP supporting several authentication methods (AD/LDAP, SSO, Google OAuth, 2 FA, IMAP, POP3).

                                      • archiving and retention rules
                                      • legal hold
                                      • deduplication
                                      • digital fingerprinting and verification
                                      • full text search
                                      • tagging emails
                                      • view, export, restore emails
                                      • bulk import/export messages
                                      • audit logs
                                      • Google Apps
                                      • Office 365

                                      Docker Image: http://www.mailpiler.org/wiki/testing:create-docker-image

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                                      @necrevistonnezr and @jsuto Thanks for this.

                                      1. Mailpiler and ordinary people
                                        Mailpiler seems needed for corporations but I wonder how it might be useful to an ordinary person who self-hosts their email instead of using a proprietary service?

                                      The archiving there would be just leaving mail on the server and/or downloading your mail too and keeping it locally with something like Thunderbird.

                                      1. Importing Dumps of Mail

                                      Sometimes, people grow fedup with proprietary solutions for mail and want to migrate to a self-hosted solution. Services like e.g. Gmail allow you to dump your entire accounts email and save it offline. Is Mailpiler able to "one-click" import a dump like that, so we could search it easily offline?

                                      Anyway, thanks for your help on logging in and being able to see how pretty the archived mail looks in Mailpiler. It was funny looking through the Broadcom wireless issues in the Fedora archive. šŸ™‚ Why do they do it, really? Couldn't they just Free their drivers?!

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                                      • L LoudLemur

                                        @necrevistonnezr and @jsuto Thanks for this.

                                        1. Mailpiler and ordinary people
                                          Mailpiler seems needed for corporations but I wonder how it might be useful to an ordinary person who self-hosts their email instead of using a proprietary service?

                                        The archiving there would be just leaving mail on the server and/or downloading your mail too and keeping it locally with something like Thunderbird.

                                        1. Importing Dumps of Mail

                                        Sometimes, people grow fedup with proprietary solutions for mail and want to migrate to a self-hosted solution. Services like e.g. Gmail allow you to dump your entire accounts email and save it offline. Is Mailpiler able to "one-click" import a dump like that, so we could search it easily offline?

                                        Anyway, thanks for your help on logging in and being able to see how pretty the archived mail looks in Mailpiler. It was funny looking through the Broadcom wireless issues in the Fedora archive. šŸ™‚ Why do they do it, really? Couldn't they just Free their drivers?!

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                                        m-si
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                                        @LoudLemur in germany there is a legal requirement for almost all businesses according to different laws and regulations to archive without the user haveing the option to modify, delete…so before it getā€˜s in the inbox. Additionally you have to find mechanisms to not archive personal information due to regulations of the GDPR/DSGVO. Very hairy therefore a solution like mailpiler was developed…

                                        Mailpiler is a software to archive not to backup so a different usecase

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                                          @LoudLemur in germany there is a legal requirement for almost all businesses according to different laws and regulations to archive without the user haveing the option to modify, delete…so before it getā€˜s in the inbox. Additionally you have to find mechanisms to not archive personal information due to regulations of the GDPR/DSGVO. Very hairy therefore a solution like mailpiler was developed…

                                          Mailpiler is a software to archive not to backup so a different usecase

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                                          @m-si said in Mailpiler - self hosted email archive:

                                          @LoudLemur in germany there is a legal requirement for almost all businesses according to different laws and regulations to archive without the user haveing the option to modify, delete…so before it getā€˜s in the inbox. Additionally you have to find mechanisms to not archive personal information due to regulations of the GDPR/DSGVO. Very hairy therefore a solution like mailpiler was developed…

                                          Mailpiler is a software to archive not to backup so a different usecase

                                          Wow! That is pretty much George Orwell / 1984 / Police State legislation right there. Was there much objection when it was being discussed/introduced?

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