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      girish
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      @will Only requirement is that it should be used by some app on Cloudron. You don't need to redirect it to matrix specifically. example.com can either be any app or it can redirect to any app. (At a technical level, all this means is that the Cloudron's reverse proxy is prepared & ready to answer requests for that domain).

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        @will Only requirement is that it should be used by some app on Cloudron. You don't need to redirect it to matrix specifically. example.com can either be any app or it can redirect to any app. (At a technical level, all this means is that the Cloudron's reverse proxy is prepared & ready to answer requests for that domain).

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        @girish Will this requirement be patched in a future release?

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          @will there is no way around this requirement. the matrix protocol requires the apex domain to serve up those documents. is your concern that the domain example.com can be used to host a site somewhere else? If so, all you have to do is to move the .well-known setup to that server/new location.

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          • girishG girish

            @will there is no way around this requirement. the matrix protocol requires the apex domain to serve up those documents. is your concern that the domain example.com can be used to host a site somewhere else? If so, all you have to do is to move the .well-known setup to that server/new location.

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            @girish My concern is having anything at example.com
            It would be cleaner to just have cloudron handle that for me. Small gripe, not a big deal at all.

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            • W will

              @girish My concern is having anything at example.com
              It would be cleaner to just have cloudron handle that for me. Small gripe, not a big deal at all.

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              @will said in Matrix/Riot:

              It would be cleaner to just have cloudron handle that for me. Small gripe, not a big deal at all.

              Ah, Cloudron side limitation can definitely be fixed 🙂 I agree that having to ssh and put files manually in a cryptic location is kinda crude. This will be fixed soonish but we just wanted to get the apps out for testing sooner rather than later.

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              • girishG girish

                @will said in Matrix/Riot:

                It would be cleaner to just have cloudron handle that for me. Small gripe, not a big deal at all.

                Ah, Cloudron side limitation can definitely be fixed 🙂 I agree that having to ssh and put files manually in a cryptic location is kinda crude. This will be fixed soonish but we just wanted to get the apps out for testing sooner rather than later.

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                @girish Dont get me wrong, Im thankful! Its great. I'm just giving a little feedback on possible improvements. Sounds like you are on it already

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                • M msbt

                  @yusf that is a good question, I moved the app to a different subdomain to test around, but that's probably not it. I'm guessing it is because of new keys and everything, haven't tried to re-use any of the existing ones.

                  Oh yea, atm there is no default channel, you might want to remove the comment on those lines as well to get new users in there automatically 😉

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                  #27

                  @msbt said in Matrix/Riot:

                  I'm guessing it is because of new keys and everything, haven't tried to re-use any of the existing ones.

                  Might very well be, yes. I'm going to try and migrate the keys too. The migration is hard to dry run though 😩

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                    if you want to make sure this works, you could try with a test-instance, after that a clone and then the real thing 😉 good luck either way!

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                      I'm transitioning my external reverse-proxy-and-well-known solution to the Cloudron solution. Is there any way I can configure Riot to have https://domain.tld as base_url while still having the Synapse server at https://matrix.domain.tld? This way I would be able keep Riot user sessions across migration.

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                        @yusf That should not be a problem. Riot can be installed on the main domain as well. Just make sure the .well-known is setup on the server.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @yusf That should not be a problem. Riot can be installed on the main domain as well. Just make sure the .well-known is setup on the server.

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                          @girish Sorry, I meant doing so while keeping Riot at a subdomain too. I guess not? 🙂

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                            @yusf Yeah, I think not

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                              FWIW, I just installed all of this and tested it. Works great, instructions are clear. The yaml edits referenced by @msbt were quite helpful on the external-registration side.

                              Look forward to the eventual Jitsi package.

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                                @yusf Yeah, I think not

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                                @girish What if I edited the Cloudron reverse proxy settings directly?

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                                  @girish What if I edited the Cloudron reverse proxy settings directly?

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                                  @yusf reverse proxy configs will get overwritten during updates. I think https://cloudron.io/documentation/apps/#well-known-uris should help setup well knowns the way you want them, no?

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                                    @yusf reverse proxy configs will get overwritten during updates. I think https://cloudron.io/documentation/apps/#well-known-uris should help setup well knowns the way you want them, no?

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                                    @girish Well-known is in place for Synapse already, but it seems that well-known configurations aren't enough to enable entering domain.tld as homeserver in Riot sign-in when the server is at matrix.domain.tld.

                                    What seems to be needed is the ability to forward the whole /_matrix path at domain.tld to Synapse.

                                    In nginx terms I belive that would look something like this:

                                    server {
                                      listen         443;
                                      server_name    domain.tld;
                                    
                                     location /_matrix {
                                        proxy_pass https://matrix.domain.tld;
                                     }
                                    }
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                                    • girishG girish

                                      OK, I found https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/4125 which is an open issue for implementing admin functions in Riot. I also found https://github.com/Awesome-Technologies/synapse-admin which can probably be run locally.

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                                      @girish I really hope this is possible add this in Wishlist for Matrix User and room manageable so spamming prevent and keep my chat server clean

                                      Richard Applegate
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                                        @girish I really hope this is possible add this in Wishlist for Matrix User and room manageable so spamming prevent and keep my chat server clean

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                                        @ApplegateR said in Matrix/Riot:

                                        @girish I really hope this is possible add this in Wishlist for Matrix User and room manageable so spamming prevent and keep my chat server clean

                                        What are you referring to ? Did you maybe reply in the wrong thread?

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @ApplegateR said in Matrix/Riot:

                                          @girish I really hope this is possible add this in Wishlist for Matrix User and room manageable so spamming prevent and keep my chat server clean

                                          What are you referring to ? Did you maybe reply in the wrong thread?

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                                          @girish have a admin access from web. So that way I can manage user or room.

                                          Richard Applegate
                                          Anthem Coffee and Tea
                                          Joe Coffee
                                          IT/Administrator Server/Network

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                                          • A ApplegateR

                                            @girish have a admin access from web. So that way I can manage user or room.

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                                            msbt
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                                            @ApplegateR you can just grab the synapse admin package from here and put it inside a Surfer/LAMP app, it's just static files. You can login with your admin user and manage users and channels.

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