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    • mehdiM mehdi

      @mehdi said in VPN tunnel for apps:

      (Disclaimer: I am no expert on docker networking magic)

      I think instead of trying to find a way to expose the ports from the OpenVPN container, you should instead try and find a way to make it work directly from the app container itself.

      Even if you do make it work for the exposedPort (which, I think, refers to the main web port exposed by the app, the one which is behind the reverse proxy, to expose its web interface and such, that's why there's only one: there's only one web interface), you're gonna have trouble with the extra ports (the ones defined in the manifest here https://docs.cloudron.io/custom-apps/manifest/#tcpports ) for apps that use these.

      I really think this. You should try finding a way to make the app container's default route be through the OpenVPN network, but still be connected to cloudron's regular network so it can interact with nginx and stuff. There is no good reason to make all the traffic, even the local one, be through OpenVPN.

      @Lonk is there a repo with your box changes ? Maybe I'll have time to take a look this WE

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      wrote on last edited by Lonkle
      #101

      @mehdi Oh, and just to make it clear, the app is running fine even in the terminal. If I install the LAMP app for instance and connect it to the OpenVPN Client. I can go to LAMP's terminal and type curl 127.0.0.1:80 and it will give me the LAMP Welcome page, but from the IP address of the OpenVPN Client. It'll just never get past the "Starting..." stage without a 200 response and Nginx is routing it to the wrong location. Maybe I could try hardcoding it to the right port after it installs it's config. ๐Ÿค”

      Like, this works. But I don't know how to get NGINX to route it to the port I need it to route to. Docker is supposed to bind the app.httpPort (say 34567) to the exposedPort (say 80). But that Docker binding command has to be removed to connect the containers so NGINX has to bind them manually somehow and I don't know how to work with Nginx.

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        wrote on last edited by Lonkle
        #102

        I'm near positive the way to route NGINX properly is to to add another reverse proxy which leads from the Docker randomized app.http port to the exposedPort (AKA app.manifest.httpPort). I'm not sure how though. But I can clearly access the exposedPort's data from either terminal.

        In the terminal of either of the two network-bonded apps (the LAMP or the VPN Client) - I can curl (localhost) the exposed ports of either app (the VPN Client or the LAMP) and get back the correct HTML pages.

        It's just that the reverse proxy is forwarding it to a port that Docker wasn't allowed to bind. So with no binding, that means no NGINX web page.

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          wrote on last edited by Lonkle
          #103

          For people just joining and for me to read this in the future:

          Cloudron has a user-defined network cloudron that it uses for all of it's apps and services. I'm connecting my OpenVPN Client app directly to another app (LAMP for testing) using NetworkMode which is the official way to do this. When doing so, both apps share the exact same network space (including both being connected to the cloudron network) and can, in fact, even talk to each other directly (I need to set the OpenVPN Client's exposed port to something ridiculous like in the 50000s so it doesn't conflict with any regular app's commonly exposed ports - but in the end the OpenVPN Client will expose all of it's internal network ports -P for compatibility with all other apps connecting to it - but for now, this will do since I'm just testing).

          Now, the NGINX Reverse Proxy resides on the main box level of Cloudron and routes to the randomized Docker binding port of the app which forwards it to it's "real" port (I honestly don't know where the IP translation takes place...I can't find it). ๐Ÿ˜…

          So, solution, place a second NGINX proxy at the randomized Docker app.http port and have that nginx server be inside of the internal network of the LAMP testing app so it can then internally forward the web request to it's exposedPort which is, also, port 80 (for LAMP anyway).

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            #104

            ^^^^ -- Does anyone know how to do this?

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            • mehdiM mehdi

              @mehdi said in VPN tunnel for apps:

              (Disclaimer: I am no expert on docker networking magic)

              I think instead of trying to find a way to expose the ports from the OpenVPN container, you should instead try and find a way to make it work directly from the app container itself.

              Even if you do make it work for the exposedPort (which, I think, refers to the main web port exposed by the app, the one which is behind the reverse proxy, to expose its web interface and such, that's why there's only one: there's only one web interface), you're gonna have trouble with the extra ports (the ones defined in the manifest here https://docs.cloudron.io/custom-apps/manifest/#tcpports ) for apps that use these.

              I really think this. You should try finding a way to make the app container's default route be through the OpenVPN network, but still be connected to cloudron's regular network so it can interact with nginx and stuff. There is no good reason to make all the traffic, even the local one, be through OpenVPN.

              @Lonk is there a repo with your box changes ? Maybe I'll have time to take a look this WE

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              wrote on last edited by Lonkle
              #105

              @mehdi said in VPN tunnel for apps:

              There is no good reason to make all the traffic, even the local one, be through OpenVPN.

              All local traffic is local, it doesn't go through the VPN. All of the connected-to-the-vpn-client apps run indefinitely. Eventually after Cloudron says "Starting..." it switches the message to "Not Responding" but the app will continue indefinitely because there's nothing actually wrong with it. It's connecting to all the local services it needs, it's just, this feature was designed without consideration of Cloudron's network. That's why from within the app's terminal, I can access everything locally and everything externally (the open web) from Cloudron and the web sees my VPN Client's IP Address instead of Cloudrons. This is a perfectly running app. Except...I can't expose it's internal IP:ExposedPort to NGINX to have it actually pass the health check (meaning the web app isn't being routed to the right place and I think I need a second NGINX reverse proxy to get me routed to the app's exposed port). It gets as far as app.httpPort and then because there is no binding for the app.mainfest.httpPort (AKA: ExposedPort), it just gets stuck on the web side of things.

              I can curl all I want into it the LAMP welcome. But can't access it from outside the container itself.

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                wrote on last edited by Lonkle
                #106

                Quick example of all local processes running for the second container:

                Oct 02 12:05:28 2020-10-02 16:05:28,718 INFO success: redis entered RUNNING state, process has stayed up for > than 1 seconds (startsecs)
                Oct 02 12:05:28 2020-10-02 16:05:28,719 INFO success: redis-service entered RUNNING state, process has stayed up for > than 1 seconds (startsecs)
                Oct 02 12:05:40 [GET] /healthcheck

                It just gets stuck at the health check because NGINX is giving it a 502 Bad Gateway since port 80 is not bound to port app.httpPort. That's what I still need to figure out and I think what's best is @robi's double nginx server suggestion. I just don't know how to set up NGINX inside of the LAMP container from box code though I'm sure it's possible.

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                  wrote on last edited by Lonkle
                  #107

                  I still think the solution lies in this function:

                  https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/blob/master/src/reverseproxy.js#L463

                  But that function is setting NGINX config listening on the server's public IP port. I need NGINX inside of the container to forward to the app.manifest.httpPort (in LAMP's case it's port 80).

                  Or maybe it doesn't need to be inside of the container...since if I SSH into the VPS and do curl ip-address-of-lamp:80 then it returns the HTML just fine.

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                    #108

                    SUCCESS!!!

                    I'm so close. I can manually edit the NGINX configuration of the LAMP-test app and get it's web app working using it's local IP (not 127.0.0.1:app.httpPort, but 172.18.0.3:80 - the port 80 is what LAMP uses). Both web pages come up for their each individual domain names. WOOOO!

                    It still doesn't make it past the "starting..." step though. That might be because I'm editing the NGINX file and then restarting the app to make it's web interface work. If the NGINX file was properly created from the beginning the check might pass.

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                      #109

                      Which...now I need to find the function to get the IP address of the VPN container (the app connected to it share's it's IP address).

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                      • LonkleL Lonkle

                        @mehdi said in VPN tunnel for apps:

                        There is no good reason to make all the traffic, even the local one, be through OpenVPN.

                        All local traffic is local, it doesn't go through the VPN. All of the connected-to-the-vpn-client apps run indefinitely. Eventually after Cloudron says "Starting..." it switches the message to "Not Responding" but the app will continue indefinitely because there's nothing actually wrong with it. It's connecting to all the local services it needs, it's just, this feature was designed without consideration of Cloudron's network. That's why from within the app's terminal, I can access everything locally and everything externally (the open web) from Cloudron and the web sees my VPN Client's IP Address instead of Cloudrons. This is a perfectly running app. Except...I can't expose it's internal IP:ExposedPort to NGINX to have it actually pass the health check (meaning the web app isn't being routed to the right place and I think I need a second NGINX reverse proxy to get me routed to the app's exposed port). It gets as far as app.httpPort and then because there is no binding for the app.mainfest.httpPort (AKA: ExposedPort), it just gets stuck on the web side of things.

                        I can curl all I want into it the LAMP welcome. But can't access it from outside the container itself.

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                        @Lonk said in VPN tunnel for apps:

                        @mehdi said in VPN tunnel for apps:

                        There is no good reason to make all the traffic, even the local one, be through OpenVPN.

                        All local traffic is local, it doesn't go through the VPN.

                        Sorry, I meant: There is no good reason to make all the traffic, even the local one, be through the OpenVPN client container.

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                          #111

                          What you should try to achieve is making only the app's outgoing traffic go through OpenVPN, and the connexion between it and Nginx and stuff stay exactly the same as it currently is

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                          • mehdiM mehdi

                            What you should try to achieve is making only the app's outgoing traffic go through OpenVPN, and the connexion between it and Nginx and stuff stay exactly the same as it currently is

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                            wrote on last edited by Lonkle
                            #112

                            @mehdi said in VPN tunnel for apps:

                            What you should try to achieve is making only the app's outgoing traffic go through OpenVPN, and the connexion between it and Nginx and stuff stay exactly the same as it currently is

                            That is currently the case as far as I can tell. All incoming traffic bypasses the VPN entirely. Outgoing traffic uses the VPN's connection. But the NGINX needs an incredibly minor change. There's no way around that.

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                              wrote on last edited by Lonkle
                              #113

                              But the bigger deal is that it works now!

                              Screen Shot 2020-10-02 at 6.18.06 PM.png

                              Okay, I know it says not responding but it actually is fully working (web page and everything). The "not responding" status is something I think will fix itself when I get the Nginx IP proxy_pass working. Because it's sort of a race condition as to when I start the app and when I manually rewrite the Nginx IP. And I'll never go fast enough to beat the "Not responding message". ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                wrote on last edited by Lonkle
                                #114

                                I just need a function like getAppByManifestId(manifestID) - and this will be a fully functioning proof of concept. And then another function for getLocalIPAddressByApp(app).

                                Oh, and I need to change some slight NGINX config, make it more dynamic (Cloudron hardcodes it's proxy_pass to 127.0.0.1 rn and it needs to be dynamic).

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                                  #115

                                  @girish The post above this one, do you know off the top of your head how to get those values?

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                                    You can't getAppByManifestId since there can be many apps for a given manifest id. I think you have to store whatever you want in the database in the apps table. Then when you get the app, you can get that information (like say the network id). Sorry, if my answer is totally off since I didn't read the full thread completely.

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                                      You can't getAppByManifestId since there can be many apps for a given manifest id. I think you have to store whatever you want in the database in the apps table. Then when you get the app, you can get that information (like say the network id). Sorry, if my answer is totally off since I didn't read the full thread completely.

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                                      wrote on last edited by Lonkle
                                      #117

                                      @girish I had actually nailed that issue out actually as a matter of fact. The only thing I have left is getLocalIPAddressByApp(app) - but maybe the app object already stores its internal IP (I didnโ€™t think it did, but it stores a lot)?

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                                        You can't getAppByManifestId since there can be many apps for a given manifest id. I think you have to store whatever you want in the database in the apps table. Then when you get the app, you can get that information (like say the network id). Sorry, if my answer is totally off since I didn't read the full thread completely.

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                                        @girish As for the first function, it was mainly due to me needing to find a way to identify the VPN client app by the only unique identifier I knew. Iโ€™ve hardcoded it for my use case rn...but that wonโ€™t work for the production version now that I think about it - so Iโ€™ll still need to get app data using the manifest.id (com.joelstickney.openvpn-client-cloudron). So when the app that needs to connect to it starts, it attaches to the container ID of the Open VPN client on containerCreate.

                                        Maybe right now Iโ€™ll store the things I need in ENV variables and find a way to use the โ€œappsโ€ object to parse through all of them till I find the VPN client. ๐Ÿค”

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          You can't getAppByManifestId since there can be many apps for a given manifest id. I think you have to store whatever you want in the database in the apps table. Then when you get the app, you can get that information (like say the network id). Sorry, if my answer is totally off since I didn't read the full thread completely.

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                                          @girish I think youโ€™re right about using the app table. Iโ€™ll try to RE how you use it to populate the apps variable.

                                          And no worries not following along with this thread. Itโ€™s been really difficult for me to get this working so I used this as kind of note-taking. Now that Iโ€™m nearly finished, people wonโ€™t get as bugged by my posting here every time I discover something new about the way box works. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                                            Oh wait, the container object, would contain the IP and the container ID. I could intercept that right after itโ€™s created. ๐Ÿง

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