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What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)


  • @moocloud_matt said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    @jimcavoli
    i think that's possible with nginx too, the ldap backend for auth.
    Custom Template for nginx config, will be the best i think, especially for performance optimization.

    But this Kong proxy is interesting i will ask to my team, if they have use it.

    Should we branch this topic off into its own thread about centralized authentication? It seems like an important aspect to discuss but this thread is about 6.0, which this couldn't be a part of, right? This would be further down the road? @girish @nebulon


  • @girish Glad it was at least a useful suggestion. Let's see if it works in practice 🙂

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    @avatar1024 That worked out quite nicely. You can now select a group as owner of a mailbox. founders and sales-team are groups in the screenshot below.

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  • @girish Will each person's password work for IMAP/SMTP? (users in the group)

  • Staff

    @marcusquinn Yes, that's the idea. Each user can use their own password for sending/receiving with same mailbox.

  • App Dev

    @girish Just a suggestion, but IMO it should have two dropdowns like the access section for apps. One for users and one for groups. Unsure of the implementation details but that just stood out to me.

  • Staff

    @atrilahiji Currently, one can only choose a user or a group. This was just the initial UI anyway for testing the backend. I think we probably need select box with groups like

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  • @girish makes sense. Be good as an input-select box, so you can partial-type what you're looking for in the case of long lists.

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    @atrilahiji That was easy.

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    @marcusquinn Yes, it's searchable like the one in user's/group's view. The search only appears with more than 5 users.


  • @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    There is a section overload in the app configure view We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

    Hi @girish I'd like to help with this if you're interested.


  • @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    We haven't decided on the naming yet, but maybe Volumes can be instead renamed to External Media or something, if it clarifies things. Open to other suggestions as well.

    External media makes sense to me. Until the point Cloudron is able to backup these up (if that's something that will happen), I'd also have a tooltip saying 'External media is not included in Cloudron backups'.


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    @ei8fdb said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Hi @girish I'd like to help with this if you're interested.

    Thanks for opening that gitlab issue! We won't do it for the current release atleast since there is massive UI surgery going on already for translations. Let's pick this one up after Cloudron 6 release in a separate thread.

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    An update on this. The i18n is going along well, I think @nebulon is ~80% done. Once we are almost there, we will let you guys know in the translations thread. There is a large number of strings to be translated. We plan to ship Cloudron 6 with the code being translatable while the actual translations will be made available whenever they get ready.

    Email container now has solr integration! While search is fast and I can search body (and maybe in future release attachments as well), there is something strange about how IMAP searches work. It seems it will search only under INBOX without the mail client having support for ESEARCH IMAP extension. I am also trying to figure how various mail clients behave here. Hopefully, should get sorted out this week.

    Other features are done.


  • @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    An update on this. The i18n is going along well, I think @nebulon is ~80% done.

    Excellent and important work!

    Once we are almost there, we will let you guys know in the translations thread. There is a large number of strings to be translated. We plan to ship Cloudron 6 with the code being translatable while the actual translations will be made available whenever they get ready.

    Good plan

    Email container now has solr integration!

    Amazing!

    While search is fast and I can search body (and maybe in future release attachments as well),

    Attachments too would be excellent!

    there is something strange about how IMAP searches work. It seems it will search only under INBOX without the mail client having support for ESEARCH IMAP extension. I am also trying to figure how various mail clients behave here. Hopefully, should get sorted out this week.

    I could be way off mark here, but I've noticed in the past that lots of IMAP providers seem to put Sent and other folders as effectively subfolders of the inbox. Perhaps something to do with that?

    Other features are done.

    You're underselling yourself (tbf, that's always a good look).

    Personally I am very exciting about these "other features"!

    • Volumes!
    • Mailbox sharing!
    • Faster Nextcloud and WordPress!
    • Ubuntu 20.04 support! (Edit: tbh not particularly excited by this, because I'm more excited about having BBB on Cloudron and that isnt' even compatible with 18.04 yet!)

    These are all fantastic new features!


  • @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Faster Nextcloud and WordPress!

    We have some test image with Nginx + WP, that i have already shared with @girish, in the next few day we will work with him on some special feature to make the manifest compatible with OLS base image that we have pretty much ready, and later we will work on WP and NextCloud performance boost.

    Probably next week, we will post some performance benchmarks of the new WP image, for both Nginx and OLS base image.


  • @moocloud_matt oh you beat me to it.. was going to do Nginx based stack then add other webservers to the mix.

    Can't wait for your testing.. godspeed.


  • @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Edit: tbh not particularly excited by this, because I'm more excited about having BBB on Cloudron and that isnt' even compatible with 18.04 yet!

    And the worst is, they're explicitly putting all of the work in making BBB compatible with 18.04 first and they have no plans for 20.04.


  • @avatar1024 I'm not too bothered by that but yeah it's a bit mad they are still on 16.04


  • @girish Absolutely. I wasn't suggesting to implement it "now-now". More the case of suggesting to gather data earlier (could be done at any time really), so that when it came to thinking about implementation, you had some data to base decisions on.

    To get enough data I'd suggest running the research for ~ 2-3 weeks. Analysis would be much quicker ~days. I'll happy to help with both.