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What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)

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    • girishG girish

      We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

      Features planned for 6.0:

      • Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support
      • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
      • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
      • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)
      • Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.
      • i18n

      We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

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      wrote on last edited by murgero
      #2

      @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

      Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.

      Will this allow an admin to mount LXC based containers? I've had an idea of using Cloudron to manage virtual desktops for corporate usage (like VDI on Windows).

      Edit: I meant mounting the LXC root dir - not running the actual container itself.

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      • murgeroM murgero

        @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

        Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.

        Will this allow an admin to mount LXC based containers? I've had an idea of using Cloudron to manage virtual desktops for corporate usage (like VDI on Windows).

        Edit: I meant mounting the LXC root dir - not running the actual container itself.

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        @murgero Sounds interesting. Maybe this is of interest too: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3128/rudder-it-infrastructure-auditing-security-management-platform

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        • girishG girish

          We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

          Features planned for 6.0:

          • Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support
          • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
          • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
          • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)
          • Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.
          • i18n

          We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

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          @girish What's this "unified dashboard" feature, screenshots / mock ups? Or would I have to build that branch and install to see it?

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          • LonkleL Lonkle

            @girish What's this "unified dashboard" feature, screenshots / mock ups? Or would I have to build that branch and install to see it?

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            jdaviescoates
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            #5

            @Lonk in short:

            "Unified dashboard for multiple cloudron setups - This will provide a unified auth across cloudron setups plus a single dashboard to control multiple cloudrons. "

            From the old post: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/10192

            Sounds totally awesome! (but also a huge piece of work)

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • girishG girish

              We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

              Features planned for 6.0:

              • Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support
              • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
              • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
              • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)
              • Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.
              • i18n

              We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

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              #6

              We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

              Please let me know if I can help with testing as I am very much looking forward to this feature!
              Can leverage the few (3) Lenovo thin clients that I mentioned in my Multi-Node post =]

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                I've been meaning to ask this guys, but what's "focal" support. I've tried looking it up and it has something to do with Ubuntu, but I don't exactly know what it means? 😅

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                  #8

                  Wait a second does focal support...is that the name of Ubuntu 20.04. If so...uhm, I'm an idiot. 😂 I've been wondering what focal support was for days and even looked it up.

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                  • LonkleL Lonkle

                    Wait a second does focal support...is that the name of Ubuntu 20.04. If so...uhm, I'm an idiot. 😂 I've been wondering what focal support was for days and even looked it up.

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                    @Lonk edited for clarity 🙂

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                      #10

                      @girish I just saw that in my notifications and I laughed at myself knowing that that was the only reason you changed it. Everybody else knew. But to be fair. I just got into DOCKER two weeks ago and only installed Ubuntu on my VPS for Cloudron specifically so I'm new to all of this. 😅

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                        #11

                        ( @Lonk honestly, I didn't know either 😅 )

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                        • mehdiM mehdi

                          ( @Lonk honestly, I didn't know either 😅 )

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                          @mehdi Thank god I wasn't the only one. 😂

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                            #13

                            So what does 20.04 being updated for the host Cloudron system mean for the platform as a whole? I'm going to go look up the release notes of 20.04. But I was wondering what new features were specifically applicable to us.

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                              Feature wise, 20.04 brings nothing new. But its important because most of the popular vps providers are now switching to it as the default ubuntu. Users forget often to switch to ubuntu 18 before creating a vm.

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                                Relevant post here
                                playing with this mgmt app idea may bring more clarity here as it's being used.

                                Conscious tech

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                                  Funny enough, when I migrated from a VPS to on-prem (my house) I initially tried installing it on 20.04. Didn't work. :^)

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

                                    Features planned for 6.0:

                                    • Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support
                                    • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
                                    • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
                                    • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)
                                    • Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.
                                    • i18n

                                    We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

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                                    jdaviescoates
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                                    #17

                                    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                    Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

                                    Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

                                    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                    • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

                                    Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

                                    But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

                                    From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                      @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                      Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

                                      Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

                                      @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                      • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

                                      Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

                                      But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

                                      From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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                                      @jdaviescoates yes ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported.

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                        Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

                                        Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

                                        @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                        • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

                                        Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

                                        But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

                                        From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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                                        necrevistonnezr
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                                        #19

                                        @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                        From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

                                        Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

                                        Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

                                        Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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                                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                          @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                          From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

                                          Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

                                          Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

                                          Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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                                          jdaviescoates
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                                          @necrevistonnezr thanks, that all sounds positive, but I don't see anything there about which search operators will work. Guess maybe I'll just have to wait and see!

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                            Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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