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Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!

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  • avatar1024A avatar1024

    @girish thanks for the tips. Do you know by how much we should bump up these numbers and the app's memory limit?

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    #31

    @avatar1024 This mostly depends on how many plugins and users you have, this is why we made it configurable. I would just play around with those values a bit to get a feel of any performance benefits. The default prefork file has some comments on what those values mean.

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      #32

      Last night I saw the update available for NC. This made me both excited and reluctant at the same time. πŸ™‚ Excited because I'm interested to try some of the new features. Reluctant because I use my NC instances heavily for work and personal.

      I'd appreciate if anyone is using any of these apps, can you confirm if the following apps are working in 20.*:

      • Appointments
      • Forms
      • Deck
      • Polls
      • Tasks
      • Bookmarks
      • News
      • Phonetrack
      • Music

      (I am assuming the Calendar, Contacts and Mail applications are already working.)

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      • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

        Last night I saw the update available for NC. This made me both excited and reluctant at the same time. πŸ™‚ Excited because I'm interested to try some of the new features. Reluctant because I use my NC instances heavily for work and personal.

        I'd appreciate if anyone is using any of these apps, can you confirm if the following apps are working in 20.*:

        • Appointments
        • Forms
        • Deck
        • Polls
        • Tasks
        • Bookmarks
        • News
        • Phonetrack
        • Music

        (I am assuming the Calendar, Contacts and Mail applications are already working.)

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        #33

        @ei8fdb Yep, hopefully I'm not wrong but I think all of them have been updated to work with NC 20.

        You can double check yourself by visiting https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/ and looking up each app

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          #34

          This is where I wish we used faster more efficient webservers for our apps. So many choices.

          Conscious tech

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          • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

            Last night I saw the update available for NC. This made me both excited and reluctant at the same time. πŸ™‚ Excited because I'm interested to try some of the new features. Reluctant because I use my NC instances heavily for work and personal.

            I'd appreciate if anyone is using any of these apps, can you confirm if the following apps are working in 20.*:

            • Appointments
            • Forms
            • Deck
            • Polls
            • Tasks
            • Bookmarks
            • News
            • Phonetrack
            • Music

            (I am assuming the Calendar, Contacts and Mail applications are already working.)

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            @ei8fdb The second best way to test compatibility (after asking your friends), is to clone your current nc from a backup to a new subdomain and update it to nc 20. That is the Cloudron style πŸ˜‰

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            • luckowL luckow

              @ei8fdb The second best way to test compatibility (after asking your friends), is to clone your current nc from a backup to a new subdomain and update it to nc 20. That is the Cloudron style πŸ˜‰

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              wrote on last edited by ei8fdb
              #36

              @luckow Ah, never thought of that! Thanks. Tho' I have a lot of data in my personal NC so I don't know if I have the disk space!

              Instead I created a new test instance and installed all the apps I currently use. So far it works well.

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              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                @avatar1024 said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

                Mine is slower, too, which I think is due to the "unified search" which has to index a lot of data at any time...

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                @necrevistonnezr said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                Mine is slower, too, which I think is due to the "unified search" which has to index a lot of data at any time...

                Is this speed issue still present for you?

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                • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                  @necrevistonnezr said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                  Mine is slower, too, which I think is due to the "unified search" which has to index a lot of data at any time...

                  Is this speed issue still present for you?

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                  @ei8fdb said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                  @necrevistonnezr said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                  Mine is slower, too, which I think is due to the "unified search" which has to index a lot of data at any time...

                  Is this speed issue still present for you?

                  It’s gotten much better actually

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                    #39

                    EDIT: From reading this Github issue in the repo for this app, it doesn't look like it yet supports Nextcloud 20.

                    So, definitely don't use this app in 20, or don't upgrade to 20 until it's supported.


                    As a (possible) help to others who want to upgrade to NC 20.

                    I tried to upgrade from 19.0.? to 20.0.1 a few times, each time the upgrade failed: the NC instance wouldn't start up.

                    I eventually tracked it down to the "External storage support for Google Drive" application. It was generating the following in the logs:

                    Nov 11 20:52:21 [Wed Nov 11 19:52:21.650912 2020] [php7:error] [pid 777] [client 172.18.0.1:46074] PHP Fatal error: Interface 'OCA\\Files_External\\Lib\\Config\\IBackendProvider' not found in /app/data/apps/files_external_gdrive/lib/AppInfo/Application.php on line 32, referer: https://saneux.ei8fdb.org/setting/apps/disabled/files_external_gdrive
                    

                    I had this installed, but not configured.

                    Solution

                    To solve this issue (while still upgrading to 20.0.1 and get the instance restarted):

                    • restore to my last backup (on 19.0.3)
                    • disable the "External storage support for Google Drive" app
                    • upgrade to 20.0.1

                    I tried to reenable the Google Drive app but it has caused the instance to restart and hang.

                    It was possible to get the NC into recovery mode, but it wasn't possible to use the occ command on commandline to disable the app.

                    When it hangs the only way to solve it is to downgrade to 19.0.3 again as explained above in Solution.

                    I'd suggest not upgrading to 20.0.1, or not using this app until a later release comes out.

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                      Thanks for sharing this, very useful information. Nextcloud plugins are nearly always what breaks updates. Unfortunately with php apps often those failures are not isolated.

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                        This details how to use RClone to connect or mount Google Drive externally:
                        https://ostechnix.com/how-to-mount-google-drive-locally-as-virtual-file-system-in-linux/

                        Then you can add it to NC as an external directory without using the plugin.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          This details how to use RClone to connect or mount Google Drive externally:
                          https://ostechnix.com/how-to-mount-google-drive-locally-as-virtual-file-system-in-linux/

                          Then you can add it to NC as an external directory without using the plugin.

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                          Good News Everyone!

                          Google Drive now has the ability for managers to share folders, in shared drives.

                          Conscious tech

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                          • robiR robi

                            Good News Everyone!

                            Google Drive now has the ability for managers to share folders, in shared drives.

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                            @robi Saw that, took them long enough as it was the first glaring omission I spotted when that feature came out to be immediately useless without. Will be migrating to Nextcloud over the next months, had enough of Google & Co.

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