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      parhelium
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      Start Accepting Bitcoin Payments With 0% Fees & No Third-party

      https://btcpayserver.org/

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        Start Accepting Bitcoin Payments With 0% Fees & No Third-party

        https://btcpayserver.org/

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        @parhelium Oh this is pretty neat. I built something similar a few years ago with a close cousin of mine. It will be very cool to see this on Cloudron.

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          @parhelium Oh this is pretty neat. I built something similar a few years ago with a close cousin of mine. It will be very cool to see this on Cloudron.

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          @murgero said in BTCpayserver:

          @parhelium Oh this is pretty neat. I built something similar a few years ago with a close cousin of mine. It will be very cool to see this on Cloudron.

          Oh yes, same here. We built a private exchange and cross-chain coin swap market with Ark.io

          For those that aren't as familiar with crypto, one only needs a public address to accept payments, but using only that, there is no feedback system that validates the payment was made and other important feedback loops, like triggering a swap or product shipment.

          Conscious tech

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            sysadmin
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            +1

            Right now BTCPayServer is by far the most serious option for self-hosted crypto payment processor.

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              I suppose this would be deployable on a free license, maybe I should try my hand at Cloudron packaging. Not sure that I can support it long-term personally though. Hopefully I can develop with a free license server deployment.

              Some more info about this platform has also been discussed here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4738/accept-bitcoin/

              Atleast Cloudron UG does not host any servers and btcpayserver is already non-custodial. Nice qualities there.

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                subtlecourage
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                Gosh!

                It would serve me to do a better job at searching before posting.

                I just posted a similar post for this request

                Is there a way we can get this in front of peoples eyes without spamming them?

                This is something, that I would probably pay to have developed on cloudron as a priority.

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                  Gosh!

                  It would serve me to do a better job at searching before posting.

                  I just posted a similar post for this request

                  Is there a way we can get this in front of peoples eyes without spamming them?

                  This is something, that I would probably pay to have developed on cloudron as a priority.

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                  @subtlecourage Let me work on this tomorrow. This tutorial doc makes it seem very simple, let's hope I didn't just jynx myself.

                  A counter-argument to adding this to cloudron might be that we are adding attack surface to what is essentially financial infrastructure. Some of Cloudron's apps might not have ever been security audited on the upstream side (unless this is an app requirement I am not aware of). Cloudron devs seem to push major updates quickly and support auto updating out-of-the-box, so that definitely helps. Again, I just think for powerful financial software like this it's important to consider. Multi-host cloudron is around the corner too.

                  Also keep in mind we already have this nice official tool that will produce a custom one-liner to install on a brand new VPS: install.btcpayserver.org They even offer the ability to SSH into the server for you via that webapp (I'm not sure if this is client or server side since wasm exists), although I feel more comfortable with the manual script option myself. It might also be neat if Cloudron borrowed from this approach.

                  I still think it is a great option for Cloudron, don't get me wrong. Researching and packaging a good user-friendly SOC stack might be where I look next if I'm not getting too far ahead of myself. Apps like Grafana + Prometheus + Metabase are already on cloudron so that's nice

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                    @subtlecourage Let me work on this tomorrow. This tutorial doc makes it seem very simple, let's hope I didn't just jynx myself.

                    A counter-argument to adding this to cloudron might be that we are adding attack surface to what is essentially financial infrastructure. Some of Cloudron's apps might not have ever been security audited on the upstream side (unless this is an app requirement I am not aware of). Cloudron devs seem to push major updates quickly and support auto updating out-of-the-box, so that definitely helps. Again, I just think for powerful financial software like this it's important to consider. Multi-host cloudron is around the corner too.

                    Also keep in mind we already have this nice official tool that will produce a custom one-liner to install on a brand new VPS: install.btcpayserver.org They even offer the ability to SSH into the server for you via that webapp (I'm not sure if this is client or server side since wasm exists), although I feel more comfortable with the manual script option myself. It might also be neat if Cloudron borrowed from this approach.

                    I still think it is a great option for Cloudron, don't get me wrong. Researching and packaging a good user-friendly SOC stack might be where I look next if I'm not getting too far ahead of myself. Apps like Grafana + Prometheus + Metabase are already on cloudron so that's nice

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                    @sysadmin Those are all valid points.

                    Personally, I would probably want it on its own dedicated cloudron box anyways.

                    But I would be intrigued to hear what others have to say about it.

                    Also, that install script http://install.btcpayserver.org/ is awesome!

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                      @subtlecourage Let me work on this tomorrow. This tutorial doc makes it seem very simple, let's hope I didn't just jynx myself.

                      A counter-argument to adding this to cloudron might be that we are adding attack surface to what is essentially financial infrastructure. Some of Cloudron's apps might not have ever been security audited on the upstream side (unless this is an app requirement I am not aware of). Cloudron devs seem to push major updates quickly and support auto updating out-of-the-box, so that definitely helps. Again, I just think for powerful financial software like this it's important to consider. Multi-host cloudron is around the corner too.

                      Also keep in mind we already have this nice official tool that will produce a custom one-liner to install on a brand new VPS: install.btcpayserver.org They even offer the ability to SSH into the server for you via that webapp (I'm not sure if this is client or server side since wasm exists), although I feel more comfortable with the manual script option myself. It might also be neat if Cloudron borrowed from this approach.

                      I still think it is a great option for Cloudron, don't get me wrong. Researching and packaging a good user-friendly SOC stack might be where I look next if I'm not getting too far ahead of myself. Apps like Grafana + Prometheus + Metabase are already on cloudron so that's nice

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                      @sysadmin That sounds good as you lift legitimate points, that I believe should be, and certainly are to some degree, considered for any app anyway. One thing though, I would not necessarily call this a "financial structure" more than a simple Payment Gateway to your BTC account, WHERE is the actual infrastructure, which is BLOCKCHAIN as we all know it.

                      This app also would run on its own container and I do not need to explain here how this is then running independently from all other app on the box, on the server. Indeed, it's a powerful 'financial' software and hopefully this would not be one's only payment option.

                      Of course, we would not accept to run any crappy quickly coded app and thus, there are many details to consider when one wants to add any kind of app the CR box.

                      So, when you look at the actual app source this is where one can see if this would be advanced enough to be considered to be added to a CR box.

                      The app has an API and is already set to reach to the largest audience of website users/owners with integration to WordPress, Woocommerce, Drupal, Tor, Magento, and PrestaShop and it's developed with rage by 89 developers and 496 releases until now (seems to be started 3 years ago), with the most recent one 8 hours ago. Main code language is C#.

                      There actually is ONLY 65 open issues out of ONLY 1044 and that means a lot already imho. I see no issue with hacked 'financial infrastructure' or anything in the like. In the contrary, this seems to an powerful and stable enough app ready for production.

                      My 2cents on the matter 😉
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                        @sysadmin Those are all valid points.

                        Personally, I would probably want it on its own dedicated cloudron box anyways.

                        But I would be intrigued to hear what others have to say about it.

                        Also, that install script http://install.btcpayserver.org/ is awesome!

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                        @subtlecourage said in BTCpayserver:

                        Personally, I would probably want it on its own dedicated cloudron box anyways.

                        No need as once we have Sysbox integrated as an option in the UI (or default) the isolation per container will be much stronger, not needing a separate machine.

                        Conscious tech

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                          @subtlecourage said in BTCpayserver:

                          Personally, I would probably want it on its own dedicated cloudron box anyways.

                          No need as once we have Sysbox integrated as an option in the UI (or default) the isolation per container will be much stronger, not needing a separate machine.

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                          @robi said in BTCpayserver:

                          @subtlecourage said in BTCpayserver:

                          Personally, I would probably want it on its own dedicated cloudron box anyways.

                          No need as once we have Sysbox integrated as an option in the UI (or default) the isolation per container will be much stronger, not needing a separate machine.

                          And that's a big PLUS... yeah.
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                            @subtlecourage said in BTCpayserver:

                            Personally, I would probably want it on its own dedicated cloudron box anyways.

                            No need as once we have Sysbox integrated as an option in the UI (or default) the isolation per container will be much stronger, not needing a separate machine.

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                            @robi Fantastic.

                            I don't really know to much about docker or docker separation - so that's cool its already being addressed.

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                              Thankfully Cloudron will make isolating infrastructure super easy to do with multi-host coming soon in v7.0

                              I haven't heard of sysbox, but rootless docker + user namespaces per container is pretty good at solving something currently "bad" security-wise about docker.

                              Regarding btcpayserver, I am waiting on a server deployment and will be testing it shortly

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                                So how is this one coming along?Anyone deploy it successfully?

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                                  Thankfully Cloudron will make isolating infrastructure super easy to do with multi-host coming soon in v7.0

                                  I haven't heard of sysbox, but rootless docker + user namespaces per container is pretty good at solving something currently "bad" security-wise about docker.

                                  Regarding btcpayserver, I am waiting on a server deployment and will be testing it shortly

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                                  @sysadmin said in BTCpayserver:

                                  Thankfully Cloudron will make isolating infrastructure super easy to do with multi-host coming soon in v7.0

                                  I haven't heard of sysbox, but rootless docker + user namespaces per container is pretty good at solving something currently "bad" security-wise about docker.

                                  Regarding btcpayserver, I am waiting on a server deployment and will be testing it shortly

                                  How did that deployment go?

                                  We are starting to consider this as well, and would love your feedback.

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                                    So how is this one coming along?Anyone deploy it successfully?

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                                    @subtlecourage also curious..

                                    Any updates?

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                                      Has any progress been made on getting BTCPay Server set up as a Cloudron App?

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                                        What is the latest on BTCpay Server on Cloudron? It was version 1.0.6.2 when it was request. Many releases have been made since then.
                                        https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver/releases?page=10

                                        Now we are on version 1.12.5
                                        https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver/releases

                                        Licence: MIT
                                        Docker: Yes
                                        Active development: Yes
                                        Demo: https://mainnet.demo.btcpayserver.org/login?ReturnUrl=%2F

                                        Some features include point-of-sale support, crowdfunding support and a button to tip developers.
                                        https://docs.btcpayserver.org/Apps/

                                        BTCpay Server also supports some applications found on Cloudron, so lets support this!

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                                          This would be nice to have

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                                            We are offering a 210 EUR bounty (paid in BTC) if somebody can package this for cloudron

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