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Budibase: an open source, no code platform

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  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

    Can I use this app to build a one-page html "responsive" site? If not, what would you recommend?

    Currently, using Wordpress but it's an overkill for a static page.

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    @humptydumpty said in Budibase: an open source, no code platform:

    Can I use this app to build a one-page html "responsive" site?

    Personally I think Budibase would be overkill for that.
    I would look at Ghost or Grav if you want an interface to building and posting content.
    Or just a Surfer or LAMP app with a free HTML template (thousands available, but look at https://html5up.net or https://pixelarity.com/) if you're ok with coding a page

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    • timconsidineT timconsidine

      @humptydumpty said in Budibase: an open source, no code platform:

      Can I use this app to build a one-page html "responsive" site?

      Personally I think Budibase would be overkill for that.
      I would look at Ghost or Grav if you want an interface to building and posting content.
      Or just a Surfer or LAMP app with a free HTML template (thousands available, but look at https://html5up.net or https://pixelarity.com/) if you're ok with coding a page

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      #34

      @timconsidine I'm using Ghost for my personal blog but haven't figured out how to build a static page without knowing how to code.

      Ideally, I'm looking for a page builder (think Elementor, WP Bakery, etc.) that I can use to build a static html page then save the project so I can easily modify things in the future. It looks like Grav fits the bill. Thanks for the recommendation!

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      • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

        @timconsidine I'm using Ghost for my personal blog but haven't figured out how to build a static page without knowing how to code.

        Ideally, I'm looking for a page builder (think Elementor, WP Bakery, etc.) that I can use to build a static html page then save the project so I can easily modify things in the future. It looks like Grav fits the bill. Thanks for the recommendation!

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        #35

        @humptydumpty if your target page is going to be fairly static (not regular content changes), you could look at https://grapesjs.com which allows you to 'scaffold' out a page with drag'n'drop components.
        Then copy/paste the built page (use the View Code button to download an HTML file and a CSS file) into something like Surfer (here on Cloudron) or a LAMP instance.

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          @humptydumpty if your target page is going to be fairly static (not regular content changes), you could look at https://grapesjs.com which allows you to 'scaffold' out a page with drag'n'drop components.
          Then copy/paste the built page (use the View Code button to download an HTML file and a CSS file) into something like Surfer (here on Cloudron) or a LAMP instance.

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          @timconsidine Just perfect! Thanks!

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          • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

            @timconsidine Just perfect! Thanks!

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            @humptydumpty 👍

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              What happened to this? Was someone here packaging it? Something we can help with?

              I can see it, at a minimum, being a useful tool for creating web forms.

              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
              Development https://brandlight.org
              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                @timconsidine Just perfect! Thanks!

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                @humptydumpty Or Gramateria wraps up GrapesJS nicely: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43190

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  What happened to this? Was someone here packaging it? Something we can help with?

                  I can see it, at a minimum, being a useful tool for creating web forms.

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                  @marcusquinn it's not good for forms to be completed by the public/unregistered users, as I understand it.
                  It's a good system, but it's aimed at a "portal" type deployment, users to be registered by admin or invited by email.

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                  • timconsidineT timconsidine

                    @marcusquinn it's not good for forms to be completed by the public/unregistered users, as I understand it.
                    It's a good system, but it's aimed at a "portal" type deployment, users to be registered by admin or invited by email.

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                    #41

                    UPDATE : I may be out of date
                    There is still a user model based on registered users in your community/enterprise/portal.
                    But I just read there is support for public screens now (may have missed it)
                    Apologies if I misled anyone

                    But it is complex to install as a Cloudron app.
                    I installed mine using their scripts on a VPS for docker installations.

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                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                      @humptydumpty Or Gramateria wraps up GrapesJS nicely: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43190

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                      @marcusquinn thanks for pointing this out!
                      It feels like a different set of product, quite interesting, but doesn’t seem to updates too often…

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        What happened to this? Was someone here packaging it? Something we can help with?

                        I can see it, at a minimum, being a useful tool for creating web forms.

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                        #43

                        @marcusquinn
                        not impossible to containerize it, but almost impossible to do it for cloudron.
                        It needs to be installed with docker-compose because it uses multiple docker containers to run:

                        • CouchDB (the only primary DB supported)
                        • Minio
                        • Main Container
                        • Worker (execute most of the process)
                        • Proxy
                        • watchtower (this is not needed in a Cloudron install)

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                        MooCloud MSP
                        Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                          Another example of it being useful to have Cloudron LDAP able to server others apps as well then.

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                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                          • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                            Can I use this app to build a one-page html "responsive" site? If not, what would you recommend?

                            Currently, using Wordpress but it's an overkill for a static page.

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                            wrote on last edited by JOduMonT
                            #45

                            @humptydumpty said in Budibase: an open source, no code platform:

                            Can I use this app to build a one-page html "responsive" site? If not, what would you recommend?

                            I see Budibase as an alternative to Notion (and so ClickUp and Asana) and while it is possible to build a blog/website with Notion, I also agreed with @timconsidine, none of these solutions are the best for that kind of task unless you want to learn through the process. The main reason is these apps would act as a database for your one page (like MySQL for WordPress).

                            Usually a database in a website is to generate dynamically page and content
                            So if your goal is to have a one-page website, well that is like building a complete office tower only to use one office.

                            For a quick and fast one-page, I often use Hugo with WowChemy.

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                            • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                              @humptydumpty said in Budibase: an open source, no code platform:

                              Can I use this app to build a one-page html "responsive" site? If not, what would you recommend?

                              I see Budibase as an alternative to Notion (and so ClickUp and Asana) and while it is possible to build a blog/website with Notion, I also agreed with @timconsidine, none of these solutions are the best for that kind of task unless you want to learn through the process. The main reason is these apps would act as a database for your one page (like MySQL for WordPress).

                              Usually a database in a website is to generate dynamically page and content
                              So if your goal is to have a one-page website, well that is like building a complete office tower only to use one office.

                              For a quick and fast one-page, I often use Hugo with WowChemy.

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                              @JOduMonT thanks for pointer to WowChemy.
                              Or at it will always be now in mind due to bleary eyes : WowCherry

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                              • joebudiJ joebudi

                                I was wondering if the Cloudron community would be interested in a Budibase add-on?

                                For viewers who don't know, Budibase is an open-source low code platform for building internal tools. You can connect your SQL database and generate responsive CRUD apps in a couple of clicks. You can find out more info on the Budibase Github repo.

                                The reason for this post is to understand the level of interest for this add-on so I (cofounder) can add weight to my proposal at our next roadmap meeting.

                                budibase.com

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                                @joebudi Hi Joe !
                                You know I'm a fan of Budibase (although personal circumstances have prevented me exploring further).
                                In principle yes !
                                The 'in principle' is about what "add-on" means.
                                What kind of interaction or functionality are you thinking of ?

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                                • joebudiJ joebudi

                                  I was wondering if the Cloudron community would be interested in a Budibase add-on?

                                  For viewers who don't know, Budibase is an open-source low code platform for building internal tools. You can connect your SQL database and generate responsive CRUD apps in a couple of clicks. You can find out more info on the Budibase Github repo.

                                  The reason for this post is to understand the level of interest for this add-on so I (cofounder) can add weight to my proposal at our next roadmap meeting.

                                  budibase.com

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                                  @joebudi there is an existing entry for Budibase in App Wishlist

                                  https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4253/budibase-an-open-source-no-code-platform?_=1653849998039

                                  We're not supposed to open duplicates ! 😄

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                                  • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                    @joebudi Hi Joe !
                                    You know I'm a fan of Budibase (although personal circumstances have prevented me exploring further).
                                    In principle yes !
                                    The 'in principle' is about what "add-on" means.
                                    What kind of interaction or functionality are you thinking of ?

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                                    Hey @timconsidine

                                    Maybe my post was not clear - apologies. What I am asking is would members of this community find value in a Budibase package/app on the Cloudron app store:
                                    https://www.cloudron.io/store/index.html#

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                                    • joebudiJ joebudi

                                      Hey @timconsidine

                                      Maybe my post was not clear - apologies. What I am asking is would members of this community find value in a Budibase package/app on the Cloudron app store:
                                      https://www.cloudron.io/store/index.html#

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                                      @joebudi ok, thought you probably meant that, but wasn't entirely sure.

                                      My answer would be emphatically yes !
                                      I've previously believed it is too complex for Cloudron packaging (multiple containers etc.), but you're the tech whizz.

                                      Certainly Budibase has been mentioned in a few threads.

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                                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                        @joebudi ok, thought you probably meant that, but wasn't entirely sure.

                                        My answer would be emphatically yes !
                                        I've previously believed it is too complex for Cloudron packaging (multiple containers etc.), but you're the tech whizz.

                                        Certainly Budibase has been mentioned in a few threads.

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                                        @timconsidine We're currently working on a single docker image deployment for Budibase. We plan on releasing this in a couple of weeks. This should enable the above.

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                                          @joebudi hi and welcome to our forum! We would happily work together with you on a Budibase app package. In our experience working closely together with upstream is always super helpful in initial packaging as well as ongoing updates for smooth data migration.

                                          To give a very rough overview on Cloudron packages, they are Dockerimage based, the apps need to run in a read-only filesystem, where /app/data is writeable for persistent data, while /tmp and /run are for transient data. Further Cloudron comes with shared services like databases, which we call addons. You can find them here to avoid duplicating common services per app and for databases, ensure data dumps are coherent for backups, restore or app cloning.

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