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Baserow Cloudron app - Airtable alternative

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  • doodlemania2D Offline
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    doodlemania2 App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    this is huge! welcome @bram - big fan of your app!!!!

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  • nebulonN Offline
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    nebulon Staff
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    #5

    Hi @bram and welcome to our forum!

    This is indeed great news and awesome how much progress you already made for the packaging.

    I will give it a try later today and hopefully we can get this into the app library soon 🙂

    Regarding redis version, I can confirm that the addon has version 4.9.0 installed, however we are currently preparing a new base image for apps and addons, which is based on Ubuntu 20.04 and then redis is updated. I see that @girish just already updated the docs 😉

    For healthcheck one option is to add a small daemon which provides for example a /healthcheck route and internally then pings the corresponding services for health. That way the app package only has one route but that one will indicate if all components are healthy.

    I hope I can give more feedback once I've tested it. Just a heads up, we also require selenium tests for all app packages, but we are happy to provide them for Baserow then.

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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    marcusquinn
    replied to bram on last edited by marcusquinn
    #6

    @bram Great stuff - looking forward to giving it a good test and helping with feedback.

    Personal opinion but maybe shared. Something I've found, and I think others do too, is making open-source a sustainable business, and for users, avoiding gotchyas, lock-ins or usage taxes.

    The business models I've found the happiest are with EspoCRM and Freescout.

    Essentially, the FOSS is unlimited in usage, and the Premium is too.

    Premium revenue coming from selling extra setup "Packs" that are typically only needed by businesses, and also effectively fast-track best-practice template setups.

    So FOSS users get the full benefit of the framework to use, test,, feedback on and help evolve.

    And those using the app to save or make time or money will happily pay for the premium packs as they get them setup with templates that would otherwise take a longer time to recreate.

    I understand per-user licensing for vendor-managed SaaS because users numbers tend to correlate to support requests or expectations.

    However, for self-hosted, I hope to encourage you to consider unlimited users and, instead look to premium packs, templates, setups, perhaps with an annual license.

    So you have good and repeat income but businesses that have low margins and high user count needs aren't looking at prohibitive scaling costs because if they are self-hosting, they also tend to be self-supporting for 1st-line requests. Consider it support work-sharing 🙂

    Keep up the great work, I love anything that encourages understanding database design and record-keeping and communications best-practice. I'm sure the world will thank and reward you for your innovation!

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
    Jersey/UK
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    bram App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and for the info.

    For now it is okay if Redis doesn't keep the persistent state, so we can use the one that is installed within the Basero app image. Would be nice to use the Cloudron addon in the future once Redis 5 is fully supported. Once the Docker healthcheck is supported we can use that.

    Looking forward to your feedback!

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    bram App Dev
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    #8

    I have a quick follow up question. Is it possible for Cloudron to generate a unique secret key and provide that as environment variable? Baserow depends on a secret key to create password reset and invite tokens, but this needs to be unique value for each installation. Otherwise if everyone uses the same key, it will become possible to create password reset tokens which is a security issue.

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  • nebulonN Offline
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    replied to bram on last edited by
    #9

    @bram similar to cookie secrets, this usually is done in the startup script (start.sh).

    Something on the lines of (just some pseudo bash here):

    if [[ ! -f /app/data/.secret ]]; then
        echo "SECRET_ENV=$(some way to generate a secret)" > /app/data/.secret
    fi
    
    source /app/data/.secret
    

    Very much depends on how the app consumes this. Sometime like gitlab they have a secrets file like: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/gitlab-app/-/blob/master/start.sh#L92

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  • mehdiM Offline
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    mehdi App Dev
    replied to bram on last edited by
    #10

    @bram an example here : https://git.cloudron.io/mehdi/river/-/blob/master/start.sh#L64

    if [ ! -f /app/data/session.secret ]; then
      dd if=/dev/urandom bs=256 count=1 | base64 > /app/data/session.secret
    fi
    
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  • B Offline
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    bram App Dev
    wrote on last edited by bram
    #11

    This will work for my use case. Thanks!

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  • ianhyzyI Offline
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    ianhyzy
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    #12

    This looks like a fantastic tool, can't wait to try it out on Cloudron!

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    timconsidine App Dev
    replied to ianhyzy on last edited by
    #13

    @ianhyzy Ditto
    Is the status of this known ? Coming to a cloudron near me soon ??

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  • doodlemania2D Offline
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    doodlemania2 App Dev
    replied to timconsidine on last edited by
    #14

    @timconsidine It's available now, just not in the store. Just follow instructions above and you'll be up and running in no time.

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    timconsidine App Dev
    replied to doodlemania2 on last edited by
    #15

    @doodlemania2 Cheers !

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    timconsidine App Dev
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    timconsidine App Dev
    replied to doodlemania2 on last edited by
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    @doodlemania2 Having trouble with this :
    Repeat errors like App installation error: Installation failed: Unable to pull image tcmbp132021/baserow:1:3:0. Please check the network or if the image needs authentication. statusCode: 400

    I can build locally and I can push docker image.
    But interestingly docker for desktop reports 3.25Gb locally and repository only 1.1Gb

    Does the image need authentication ??
    Or maybe there is indeed a network error
    Grrrr

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  • timconsidineT Offline
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    timconsidine App Dev
    replied to timconsidine on last edited by
    #18

    And when I run the container locally, it starts and immediately fails
    http://ocalhost:3000 doesn't respond and docker for desktop reports not started
    I think there is a build problem

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  • timconsidineT Offline
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    timconsidine App Dev
    replied to timconsidine on last edited by
    #19

    Bizarre
    Now working
    Maybe there was some network glitch going on
    I did do docker trust just in case
    But had to delete images multiple times and try again
    Anyway now deployed to and working on cloudron - yay !
    Thank you @bram !!

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  • T Offline
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    thetomester13 App Dev
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    @staff any thoughts on publishing Baserow as unstable? I've been using it on and off and it's quite smooth. Not sure what else is needed from a packaging perspective though.

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  • girishG Offline
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    girish Staff
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @bram Are you open to have this app published in the Cloudron store? This involves moving the packaging to the git.cloudron.io and also have automated tests (we can help with both).

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    bram App Dev
    replied to timconsidine on last edited by
    #22

    @timconsidine Glad to hear that it now works for you!

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  • B Offline
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    bram App Dev
    replied to girish on last edited by
    #23

    @girish Apologies for my super late response. I don't check the Cloudron forum that often, but luckily @tomershivani reached out to me via email notifying me about your question. I would love to have Baserow in the Cloudron app store. I am not sure which steps I exactly need to make. Is there a documentation page about this? Or is it just a matter of creating a new repo on git.cloudron.io containing the files that now live here https://gitlab.com/bramw/baserow/-/tree/develop/deploy/cloudron, add automated tests and you will do the rest? Would love to learn a bit more about this process and help with the automated tests would be much appreciated.

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