High Performance Back-end for Nextcloud Files

[jdaviescoates]

There is already an App Wishlist post for the Nextcloud Talk High Performance Back-end but I figured I'd add one for the High Performance Back-end for Nextcloud Files too.

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-faster-than-ever-introducing-files-high-performance-back-end/
https://github.com/nextcloud/notify_push

It'd be great to have this on Cloudron!

As @oj said in Nextcloud 21 is out:

@girish @nebulon For users who are using Nextcloud + Nextcloud Talk for remote, collaborative work, the two Nextcloud HPB's (the Spreed SFU/ signalling HPB + this new notifications HPB binary) are very important.

My largest (non-Cloudron) Nextcloud has 22 remote users; the Spreed SFU (available as-a-service for 40 euro per month) enables them to hold their all-hands Monday video meetings. They love the new notifications binary too because it makes the Nextcloud Talk notifications "instantaneous"... especially, when receiving a call, etc.

With these two HPB's enabled, Nextcloud is arguably the best, open source, self-hostable, remote-work collaboration tool available today. Without them....well, it great for managing files....like Owncloud, Pydio, etc.

If Cloudron devs intend their Nextcloud installation to be used for collaborative, remote work, then the notifications HPB binary needs to be enabled by default. It requires a decent amount of of server-side jugglery.

[avatar1024]

@jdaviescoates I'm not actually sure what it involves to enable this but do we know if anyone is working on it? Is it actually a separate app or just some specific config with a reverse proxy and redis? Does anyone know what are the missing pieces for it to work on Cloudron?

[oj]

@avatar1024 This docker-compose example on Reddit indicates the need for an additional container + an open port + env variables.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NextCloud/comments/m3emm9/nextcloud_with_hpb_dockercompose_example/

[jdaviescoates]

@avatar1024 I think @doodlemania2 may be offering this as a service (although perhaps that's just the High Performance Talk Backend, can't remember)

[necrevistonnezr]

@jdaviescoates It's the talk backend not this: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/30474

[doodlemania2]

@necrevistonnezr / @jdaviescoates - yeah, I do offer Talk - about 5 customers using it between US and EU servers now without any issue.

I tried to look at doing the files high performance one too. I need to revisit it - when I initially looked at it, I was like, yeah, no lol, but can't remember why. Will research!

[avatar1024]

@oj Great thanks.
@staff @appdev Do you know if all those requirements can be baked in to the current Cloudron NC app or would it work best as an additional app that links with NC?

[oj]

"Syncing at a new level: 10x to 100x": With Instant Sync thanks to the High Performance Back-end for Files introduced earlier this year, and the File Packing coming to V2 of the Sync Engine, both user experience and server load will dramatically improve.

For the server, idle load will have decreased by 10x thanks to the HPB, while during syncing the number of connections is also reduced by about a factor 10!

Users will benefit from instant availability of their files, even if they need to have large numbers of small files made available locally.

Nextcloud Sync v2 will be made available as part of a desktop client release later this year, alongside the release of Nextcloud 23.