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    Alternative to Parallels/VirtualBox?

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    • timconsidine
      timconsidine App Dev last edited by

      I have tended to use VirtualBox or Parallels for local deployment of VMs. Parallels is really slick and maybe worth the purchase/subscription. I find VirtualBox clunky (but works for sure).

      Just wondering if others here use/recommend other apps ?

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      • luckow
        luckow translator @timconsidine last edited by luckow

        @timconsidine nope. In the cases where I needed virtualization magic on my local computer, I used Virtualbox, and it worked. Local development works with tools like docker, and the rest is cloud based. But I remember https://opennebula.io/ as a tool from some of my devops teammates 🙂

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        • girish
          girish Staff last edited by

          I know @sirspudd uses virt-manager for managing VMs , have no experience with it myself.

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          • MooCloud_Matt
            MooCloud_Matt @timconsidine last edited by

            @timconsidine
            if you use Windows, just go with Hyper-V it's just the most optimized and is included with the OS.
            or WSL can do a lot in the latest v2 update, with even docker desktop support.

            if you are on Linux, and you want a UI, just go for the simple Gnome Boxes, that use QEMU.

            This is all valid if you don't wanna go with a professional solution, but for homelabs and testing, they are pretty good.

            Matteo. R.
            Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
            MooCloud MSP
            Swiss Managed Service Provider

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            • luckow
              luckow translator last edited by

              Oh, i forgot: https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve Maybe it's worth taking a look

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              • fbartels
                fbartels App Dev @timconsidine last edited by

                @timconsidine the products you mentioned make me think that you're running on MacOS. In which case https://github.com/lima-vm/lima could be what you're looking for.

                I'm using https://github.com/abiosoft/colima to run docker containers locally, which is based on Lima.

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                • timconsidine
                  timconsidine App Dev @fbartels last edited by timconsidine

                  @fbartels good observation !
                  I have small Linux boxes, but my primary end-user environment is Mac.
                  So for this topic Mac system is good.

                  I'm interested to try Proxmox sometime and others.

                  I'm using Parallels Desktop on a Mac Mini M1 because (at the time anyway) Virtualbox didn't support M1 chip. Must check again.

                  Parallels also offer 'Parallels RAS' which is interesting to support 'desktop as a service'. But server component is Windows only (and for me no on-premise Windows device) or install on Azure or AWS (which is not my preferred direction).

                  EDIT : Lima sure looks interesting and Lima/Colima installs via Homebrew - sweet ! 👍

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                  • mehdi
                    mehdi App Dev @fbartels last edited by

                    @fbartels This may be a dumb question, but what's the point of Lima / Colima compared to simply the official Docker for Mac setup ?

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                    • fbartels
                      fbartels App Dev @mehdi last edited by

                      @mehdi said in Alternative to Parallels/VirtualBox?:

                      compared to simply the official Docker for Mac setup ?

                      Docker changed the licensing of Docker Desktop a while ago making it no longer free to use for larger organisations.

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