Mixpost
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I got a message from Dima yesterday. The alpha version of Mixpost Pro Team is out. Laravel installation instructions are here.
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There's a doc page about installing Mixpost on/with/via(?) docker: https://docs.inovector.com/books/mixpost-pro-team/page/using-docker-image
How complicated is packaging this app?
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@humptydumpty said in Mixpost:
Mixpost Pro Team is out.
I'm gutted I missed the "pro for life" Early Adopter deal
Oh, and the Early Adopter of the SaaS deal has gone up in price significantly too
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@jdaviescoates I thought you were going to snatch a license after playing with the demo. What happened?
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@humptydumpty yeah, I was, but it just slipped through the net. I've been both busy and ill quite a lot recently
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@jdaviescoates You should email Dima about it. You were in direct comms with him during the offer period on discord and on the roadmap site offering suggestions. I doubt he'll refuse your request. I hope you're feeling better!
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@girish I contacted Dima regarding the Pro Team packaging and he said that would require a separate package than the lite because he's unsure what Cloudron's policy is regarding paid software. Is it an issue to have a paid-only app in the CR appstore?
Quoting Dima just in case I misunderstood him:
Hi, I'll need to create separate Cloudron support for Mixpost Pro. But I still don't know their policy regarding paid software, for this reason, I didn't include it on the Mixpost Pro roadmap list.
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Hi everyone!
I am the creator of Mixpost. Nice to see this discussion here.
Mixpost Lite and Pro have been released and I'm ready to have a discussion about listing these apps in the Cloudron Store.
@girish What are the steps and conditions necessary to list the applications on the Cloudron store?
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Hi @lao9s Usually to list it in the Cloudron Store it's just needed to create an App Package that is adjusted to the Cloudron System. Here is the Documentation/Tutorial
The main work here is to install Mixpost to a new Docker Image which is based on the official Cloudron Docker Image. There are some special requirements because of this, eg. only /tmp /run and /app/data is writable for the App.
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@lao9s Welcome here!
Is the Lite edition upgradable to Pro with a key? Or alternately, can the Pro start up as Lite without a key and go from there? For our packages, it would be best if the package does something without a key. Otherwise, it's hard to test updates (if the UI just show anything without a key).
That would be the ideal instead of having two separate packages to test. We have many non-free apps, so it's not a problem. Like confluence, ctfreak, minecraft, valheim, n8n, onlyoffice ee, to name a few.
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Hi @Kubernetes,
Thank you for the link.
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Hi @girish
The Lite version is not upgradable to Pro with a key, the Pro is a different package.
Some specific technical data about Pro:
The Pro version is installing only with a License code on starting the container. In other words, the entire code of Mixpost Pro is not in the image but is downloaded from the private repository every time the container is started.The doc: https://docs.inovector.com/books/mixpost-pro-team/page/using-docker-image
Is such an approach possible on Cloudron?
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The Pro version is installing only with a License code on starting the container. In other words, the entire code of Mixpost Pro is not in the image but is downloaded from the private repository every time the container is started.
Ah, I see. That approach won't work well on Cloudron. All our containers run on readonly file system I guess one can download code and run but that will make updates and backups quite tricky.
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@girish I got it. Can you tell me how other paid software works in this case?
So in the case of Mixpost Pro, it is important that:
- Users only have access to the code with a license key.
- The application cannot be installed without a license code.
What solutions do you recommend?
Thank you!
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Does anyone here have an implementation up and running who is willing to share their docs/additional steps?
Also, has anyone happened to get an implementation working using the Cloudron Proxy?
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@girish I got it. Can you tell me how other paid software works in this case?
From the apps that we have:
- confluence - we can download the code (https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/download-archives) . When it starts up, you provide a license
- onlyoffice ee - code can be installed from apt (https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/onlyoffice-ee-app/-/blob/master/Dockerfile). it picks up license from a file on startup
- mattermost - https://mattermost.com/download/
- gitlab/cloudron - apart from above which have binaries that are downloaded, both gitlab (https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab) and cloudron (https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box) are source available. but needs license to do extra things. yes, this does mean that one can read the code and bypass license. We considered this and decided not to worry about such people and tackle it if it's a real problem (so far, it's not). GitLab EE has https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/administration/license_file.html
In all the cases, one can install the app but simply not use it without a license.