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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn
    • https://twitter.com/itsPaulAi/status/1679124698876071937
    • https://claude.ai

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    @marcusquinn said in AI on Cloudron:

    • https://twitter.com/itsPaulAi/status/1679124698876071937
    • https://claude.ai

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    Claude is good fun. You can tell it prefers to not give longer responses. Thanks for the link.

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      • https://nat.dev gives you early access to GPT-4-32K for those that know the potentials that adds.
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      @marcusquinn said in AI on Cloudron:

      GPT-4-32K

      From you.com ai:

      "what potentials are there for GPT-4-32K
      Potential applications and capabilities of GPT-4-32K
      GPT-4-32K, being one of the largest language models developed to date, holds great potential for a wide range of applications and capabilities. Here are some of its potential uses:

      1. Improved natural language processing (NLP)

      GPT-4-32K's massive size and scope can significantly improve the accuracy and efficiency of NLP applications, such as language translation, chatbots, and virtual assistants.
      Its ability to contextualize information and draw connections between diverse topics can help overcome common NLP challenges, such as ambiguity, nuance, and complex sentence structures.
      2. Enhanced problem-solving and decision making

      GPT-4-32K has the potential to assist in complex problem-solving and decision-making tasks across various domains, such as medicine, finance, and engineering.
      Its ability to generate coherent and relevant responses to open-ended questions can provide valuable insights and perspectives that human experts may overlook.
      3. Advanced content creation and curation

      GPT-4-32K's ability to generate high-quality and engaging content can be used in various applications, such as writing news articles, creating product descriptions, and generating marketing copy.
      Its powerful content curation capabilities can also be used to analyze and summarize large amounts of unstructured data, such as social media feeds and customer feedback.
      4. Cutting-edge research and development

      GPT-4-32K's massive size and extensive training data can be used to push the boundaries of research and development in various fields, such as cognitive science, linguistics, and artificial intelligence.
      Its ability to generate novel and creative ideas can also be used to explore new areas of research and innovation.
      Overall, GPT-4-32K's potential is vast and varied, and it is likely to have a significant impact on the future of language processing and artificial intelligence."

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        Elong announces his new AI company: xAI. It will tell us the truth...
        https://x.ai/

        https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-new-company-xai-website-2023-7

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          Elong announces his new AI company: xAI. It will tell us the truth...
          https://x.ai/

          https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-new-company-xai-website-2023-7

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          @LoudLemur The truth is, there is no single truth, just some superficial overlap. Otherwise, the truth is whatever you want it to be 🙂

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            ChatGPT 4 is now available to all fee-paying users. It remains proprietary AI.

            https://openai.com/blog/gpt-4-api-general-availability

            The Powers That Shouldn't Be don't want people to put "their" values into AI, or to raise doubts. DeepMind start pushing for 'regulation' over AI.

            https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=oAxNkehgzEU&quality=dash

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            @LoudLemur said in AI on Cloudron:

            The Powers That Shouldn't Be don't want people to put "their" values into AI, or to raise doubts. DeepMind start pushing for 'regulation' over AI.

            https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=oAxNkehgzEU&quality=dash

            Ironically the title says : "We need humans at the top of food chain; says AI pioneer" BUT, startlingly enough that is actually a FACT! 🙃

            It's also a paradox, because there wouldn't exist any AI technology without humans UP there, "at the top of food chain". It sounds bold, but that's very likely for making the headlines anyway...

            Of course we understand that what he means is that it take humans to constantly be overlooking at AI apps and processes, so it's 'never' be left by itself, to maintain and enhance itself, and program itself even more powerful features by itself without any human supervision. (Yes, supervision is human, not AI's 🙂 )

            We already have "AI Surveillance Systems" over humans, but, indeed, we also MUST have to legislate, implement and enforce a "Human Surveillance over AI Systems" as well, and forever!

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @LoudLemur The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons. Amazing to see it in action!

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              @marcusquinn said in AI on Cloudron:

              @LoudLemur The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons. Amazing to see it in action!

              Can you IMAGINE man? And all this is only at the beginnings! We'll need to find another expression than "mind boggling"?

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                Elong announces his new AI company: xAI. It will tell us the truth...
                https://x.ai/

                https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-new-company-xai-website-2023-7

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                @LoudLemur said in AI on Cloudron:

                Elong announces his new AI company: xAI. It will tell us the truth...
                https://x.ai/

                🤣 🤣 😁

                Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
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                  @marcusquinn said in AI on Cloudron:

                  @LoudLemur The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons. Amazing to see it in action!

                  Can you IMAGINE man? And all this is only at the beginnings! We'll need to find another expression than "mind boggling"?

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                  @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                  The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons.

                  Under what licence does it release/create that code? For example, if I had it create a "Hello, world!" browser extension, what would the licence be, or is it just public domain?

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                    @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                    The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons.

                    Under what licence does it release/create that code? For example, if I had it create a "Hello, world!" browser extension, what would the licence be, or is it just public domain?

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                    @LoudLemur I believe their Ts & Cs say they don't claim copyright over output. With WordPress, it's typical that GPL is inherited. Otherwise, I'm sure it can be whatever you want it to be. Ultimately, the value in any code isn't the code itself, it's the usage and feedback on what the code does, and anything you publish open-source, that's then tried & tested, they'll then be re-ingesting to future LLMs. They're not interested in your license, they're interested in your proving code does what it says it does, as then it's valuable to re-ingest and increase their own code understanding and creation capabilities. You work for the robots now 😉

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                      @LoudLemur I believe their Ts & Cs say they don't claim copyright over output. With WordPress, it's typical that GPL is inherited. Otherwise, I'm sure it can be whatever you want it to be. Ultimately, the value in any code isn't the code itself, it's the usage and feedback on what the code does, and anything you publish open-source, that's then tried & tested, they'll then be re-ingesting to future LLMs. They're not interested in your license, they're interested in your proving code does what it says it does, as then it's valuable to re-ingest and increase their own code understanding and creation capabilities. You work for the robots now 😉

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                      @marcusquinn said in AI on Cloudron:

                      You work for the robots now

                      Haha! Thanks! I shall be pondering this all day!

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                        @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                        The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons.

                        Under what licence does it release/create that code? For example, if I had it create a "Hello, world!" browser extension, what would the licence be, or is it just public domain?

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                        @LoudLemur said in AI on Cloudron:

                        @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                        The new Code Interpreter beta is WILD. Try uploading Wordpress plugins to it and ask how they work, and for it to create patches and add-ons.

                        Under what licence does it release/create that code? For example, if I had it create a "Hello, world!" browser extension, what would the licence be, or is it just public domain?

                        In all logic, you own the copyright here's why.

                        AI is a TOOL as Word, Excel, WordPress, PHP, Python... and what you produce using these tools is your WORK and protected by copyright law, and the same goes for AI tools.

                        Moreover, when one think about it where do you think ALL DATA used LLMs etc is coming from? PLUS every time we use it and even tweak results we FEED IT as well. That's why providers don't care about copyright themselves, because it's not their purpose.

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                          Much ChatGPT competition is quickly getting into the AI race.

                          Llama 2: The New Open LLM SOTA
                          https://www.latent.space/p/llama2

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                            Much ChatGPT competition is quickly getting into the AI race.

                            Llama 2: The New Open LLM SOTA
                            https://www.latent.space/p/llama2

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                            @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                            SOTA

                            Thanks, @micmc!

                            SOTA (State Of The Art)

                            People can play with Lama2 here:
                            https://huggingface.co/spaces/ysharma/Explore_llamav2_with_TGI

                            What I notice is that the response time between question and answer is split second. I would like to know why! If I try and run this locally, it takes AI half a minute or longer to get going, and then an age to s-l-o-w-l-y print out its reply.

                            Is it a hardware issue? What would be needed to run that locally at similar speed to the hugging face demo?

                            What I am hoping, is that it is not 8x Nvidia A100s

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                              I guess you've come to realize the GPU power required to run a decent ML model 🙂

                              One might want to experience on a lower scale there already is models that work with consumer grade hardware. That you can install on your local PC, and since it runs on Docker theoretically it should run on a VPS as well as maybe even Cloudron then. I've not yet tested this on a VPS but I'm working on it.

                              Check out https://localai.io/ which does NOT require GPU and uses several GPT models as well, like llama.cpp, gpt4all.cpp and whisper.cpp and more... This site is very interesting for AI enthusiasts who want to learn more and tests things deeper, it's fascinating.

                              Enjoy!

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                                I'm not sure if anyone here, power users, has realized that there already is AI tools and modules being added to Cloudron via several app carried and maintained by our fearless developers team here.

                                First I discover is in Joplin as I'm a Joplin power user (this app is amazing) and there exists several plugins to add to enhance the app and one of them is called Jarvis and offer SEVERAL AI features to use right inside your notes everywhere.

                                Then recently in the latest major release of NextCloud they've added an OpenAI integration module.

                                And just now, in a major release of ChatWoot: OpenAI integration : ( Reply suggestions, summarization, and ability to improve drafts ). This is just a beginning this app was already very much powerful and getting more and more almost by the day.

                                I guess, RocketChat and MatterMost* might quickly follow if it's not already done. (?)

                                Roughly, I know it can also be integrated into LibreOffice somehow.

                                What else, anyone?

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                                  I'm not sure if anyone here, power users, has realized that there already is AI tools and modules being added to Cloudron via several app carried and maintained by our fearless developers team here.

                                  First I discover is in Joplin as I'm a Joplin power user (this app is amazing) and there exists several plugins to add to enhance the app and one of them is called Jarvis and offer SEVERAL AI features to use right inside your notes everywhere.

                                  Then recently in the latest major release of NextCloud they've added an OpenAI integration module.

                                  And just now, in a major release of ChatWoot: OpenAI integration : ( Reply suggestions, summarization, and ability to improve drafts ). This is just a beginning this app was already very much powerful and getting more and more almost by the day.

                                  I guess, RocketChat and MatterMost* might quickly follow if it's not already done. (?)

                                  Roughly, I know it can also be integrated into LibreOffice somehow.

                                  What else, anyone?

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                                  @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                                  What else, anyone?

                                  There is some AI tagging of faces in the image applications, for example, Immich.

                                  I think OCR (Optical Character Recognition) extraction of text from images could count as AI, too.

                                  By the way, @micmc, thank you very much indeed for your brilliant links which are very worthwhile following.

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                                    We know Automatic1111 and Serge, there is also oobabooga, which is like a Serge rival, I suppose and which can install Llama2:
                                    https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui
                                    there is a video explaining how to do it here:
                                    https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=SbuhznykQBg&quality=dash

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                                      I guess you've come to realize the GPU power required to run a decent ML model 🙂

                                      One might want to experience on a lower scale there already is models that work with consumer grade hardware. That you can install on your local PC, and since it runs on Docker theoretically it should run on a VPS as well as maybe even Cloudron then. I've not yet tested this on a VPS but I'm working on it.

                                      Check out https://localai.io/ which does NOT require GPU and uses several GPT models as well, like llama.cpp, gpt4all.cpp and whisper.cpp and more... This site is very interesting for AI enthusiasts who want to learn more and tests things deeper, it's fascinating.

                                      Enjoy!

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                                      @micmc said in AI on Cloudron:

                                      I guess you've come to realize the GPU power required to run a decent ML model

                                      I sure have! Some people have commented that Meta deliberately didn't release a 30b version of Llama2 as that would be just about possible to run on consumer grade hardware.

                                      That 70b Llama2 I tried on huggingface chat and I loved it! I want to try and host it, and am trying to figure out how to go about doing that. This is what I am looking at. Maybe others here have some better ideas!

                                      https://xethub.com/XetHub/Llama2

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                                      Is it relatively easy to just "turn on" a pre-saved instance when you are ready for a session and then go full-steam for a couple of hours, then when you are finished for the day, "turn off" and just pay the $4? It is a highly efficient.

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                                        I was reading through localai.io github pages and it mentions this nifty tool for upscaling images (Upscayl). It converted a 640px image to 2560px and the detail improvement is insane. No more blurriness or pixelation, and it even enhances the colors to make it "pop". I used the ULTRASHARP mode. The first (default) mode in the list does the same job minus the color pop. Here are the images for comparison.

                                        640px ring
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                                        2560px upscayle + compressed (TinyPNG; forum limits size to 4MB)

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                                          Talking about LocalAI.io There is now a OpenAI plugin that can be added to OnlyOffice in NextCloud.
                                          You can use OpenAI API by putting your API key, but it can also be use, and this is what they even recommend, with a LocalAI instance running on the same server as NextCloud.

                                          I guess we should start looking if a local instance of LocalAI could be run smoothly on a LAMP instance on Cloudron, and even be added as an app to Cloudron since it is built to run on Docker already?

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