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Moving away from Gandi

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      I was a happy Gandi customer, but now they got sold and domain prices will rise and they removed the 2 free emails per domain from April, and if you already had them, well you'll either have to pay or migrate emails.

      They were already quite expensive, so this move does sound bullshit to me, unfortunately.

      I was reading on NameSilo and Porkbun, any feedback on them? Any other suggestion outside of Cloudflare and OVH?

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        Sorry, I meant to create this in Off-topic, @girish / @nebulon could you please move it?

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        • ruihildtR ruihildt

          I was a happy Gandi customer, but now they got sold and domain prices will rise and they removed the 2 free emails per domain from April, and if you already had them, well you'll either have to pay or migrate emails.

          They were already quite expensive, so this move does sound bullshit to me, unfortunately.

          I was reading on NameSilo and Porkbun, any feedback on them? Any other suggestion outside of Cloudflare and OVH?

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          jdaviescoates
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          @ruihildt said in Moving away from Gandi:

          removed the 2 free emails

          I'm surprised to hear any Cloudron user was taking advantage of that anyway. I guess for of Cloudron clients or something?

          I'm a very happy Gandi customer and have never used their free email anyway, so I'll be staying with them. 🙂

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • ruihildtR ruihildt

            I was a happy Gandi customer, but now they got sold and domain prices will rise and they removed the 2 free emails per domain from April, and if you already had them, well you'll either have to pay or migrate emails.

            They were already quite expensive, so this move does sound bullshit to me, unfortunately.

            I was reading on NameSilo and Porkbun, any feedback on them? Any other suggestion outside of Cloudflare and OVH?

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            jdaviescoates
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            #4

            @ruihildt said in Moving away from Gandi:

            they got sold

            Wait, what?

            I didn't spot that bit in their recent email about prices and emails etc.

            Shall have to investigate...

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @ruihildt said in Moving away from Gandi:

              they got sold

              Wait, what?

              I didn't spot that bit in their recent email about prices and emails etc.

              Shall have to investigate...

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              wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
              #5

              @jdaviescoates said in Moving away from Gandi:

              Shall have to investigate...

              Found some info here:

              https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pehubeurope.com%2Fmontefiore-investment-sells-majority-stake-in-gandi

              BTW https://12ft.io is awesome - removes most paywalls by serving up a Google cache of the page (because of course people want the Google crawler to be able to access and index their site, even if they have a paywall)

              More info here:

              https://domainnamewire.com/2023/03/02/total-web-solutions-acquires-domain-registrar-gandi-forming-new-entity/

              Official press release here:

              https://your.online/press-release/

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                #6

                I use namesilo and have no complaints. Cloudflare is a must if you want dns automation. I’m waiting on Bunny DNS to mature enough and maybe it’ll get added to Cloudron’s api list.

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                • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                  I use namesilo and have no complaints. Cloudflare is a must if you want dns automation. I’m waiting on Bunny DNS to mature enough and maybe it’ll get added to Cloudron’s api list.

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                  wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                  #7

                  @humptydumpty said in Moving away from Gandi:

                  Cloudflare is a must if you want dns automation

                  No it isn't.

                  Thankfully Cloudon automates DNS with load of different providers (including Gandi) who haven't massively centralised the web and don't have access to all your data the way Cloudflare has and does. 🙂

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @humptydumpty said in Moving away from Gandi:

                    Cloudflare is a must if you want dns automation

                    No it isn't.

                    Thankfully Cloudon automates DNS with load of different providers (including Gandi) who haven't massively centralised the web and don't have access to all your data the way Cloudflare has and does. 🙂

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                    humptydumpty
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                    @jdaviescoates cf is the only option for me bcz of price, speed, and proxy support.

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                    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                      @jdaviescoates cf is the only option for me bcz of price, speed, and proxy support.

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                      jdaviescoates
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                      #9

                      @humptydumpty fair enough.

                      But I think most people don't need it and would be better off using one of the many other domain provides that Cloudron integrates with.

                      This is the current list from the docs:

                      Cloudflare DNS
                      DigitalOcean DNS
                      Gandi LiveDNS
                      GoDaddy
                      Google Cloud DNS
                      Hetzner DNS
                      Linode DNS
                      Name.com DNS
                      Namecheap DNS
                      Netcup DNS
                      Route53 DNS
                      Vultr DNS

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @jdaviescoates said in Moving away from Gandi:

                        Shall have to investigate...

                        Found some info here:

                        https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pehubeurope.com%2Fmontefiore-investment-sells-majority-stake-in-gandi

                        BTW https://12ft.io is awesome - removes most paywalls by serving up a Google cache of the page (because of course people want the Google crawler to be able to access and index their site, even if they have a paywall)

                        More info here:

                        https://domainnamewire.com/2023/03/02/total-web-solutions-acquires-domain-registrar-gandi-forming-new-entity/

                        Official press release here:

                        https://your.online/press-release/

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                        @jdaviescoates said in Moving away from Gandi:

                        BTW https://12ft.io is awesome - removes most paywalls

                        Awesome indeed ! 👍

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                          Epik.com has been the go-to for me

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                            ruihildt
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                            Porkbun DNS API has been added to Cloudron, so I guess I'll go for that.^^

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                            • ruihildtR ruihildt

                              Porkbun DNS API has been added to Cloudron, so I guess I'll go for that.^^

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                              @ruihildt said in Moving away from Gandi:

                              Porkbun DNS API has been added to Cloudron

                              I will also move all my domains to Porkbun, thank you !

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                                I moved a domain to Porkbun, and I discovered then that both Porkbun and Namesilo don't manage their own nameservers. They use Cloudflare.

                                I'm not happy.^^"

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                                • ruihildtR ruihildt

                                  I moved a domain to Porkbun, and I discovered then that both Porkbun and Namesilo don't manage their own nameservers. They use Cloudflare.

                                  I'm not happy.^^"

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                                  @ruihildt Please, what? Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of this as well and it's a big no go for me. I will check this.

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                                  • ruihildtR ruihildt

                                    I moved a domain to Porkbun, and I discovered then that both Porkbun and Namesilo don't manage their own nameservers. They use Cloudflare.

                                    I'm not happy.^^"

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                                    @ruihildt so let's say I have a domain with NameSilo, and I have the nameservers pointing to BunnyDNS. Does that mean Cloudflare can see the traffic to/from my sites?

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                                      They use Cloudflare's DNS services but traffic is not routed via Cloudflare.

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                                      • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                                        @ruihildt so let's say I have a domain with NameSilo, and I have the nameservers pointing to BunnyDNS. Does that mean Cloudflare can see the traffic to/from my sites?

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                                        @humptydumpty This is something you can indeed do.
                                        I'm thinking of doing something similar with my Porkbun domains.

                                        @girish Do you know if the Porkbun DNS integration would still work with other NS?

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                                        • ruihildtR ruihildt

                                          @humptydumpty This is something you can indeed do.
                                          I'm thinking of doing something similar with my Porkbun domains.

                                          @girish Do you know if the Porkbun DNS integration would still work with other NS?

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                                          @ruihildt what do you mean by other NS?

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                                            Epik.com has been the go-to for me

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                                            @frei said in Moving away from Gandi:

                                            Epik.com has been the go-to for me

                                            How did you configure the Cloudron with Epik during the initial setup?

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