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+1 for this

+1 for Akkoma. It's quite popular. For example, the linux kernel community https://social.kernel.org runs on Akkoma.

@girish Were these issues ever reported to ERPNext? I couldn't find any mention of cloudron ever in their repository: https://github.com/frappe/erpnext/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+cloudron

@jodumont I know. My own project https://learnawesome.org/ is listed there. I presented it at ActivityPub conference in October.

@mehdi MariaDB follows this as per Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_models_for_open-source_software#Delayed_open-sourcing

It's even okay if the delayed open-source release is restricted to individuals and not corporates - to protect the revenue stream. But we must find a way to direct our resources towards improving public and community goods.

@girish Have you considered releasing Cloudron code under an open-source license with, say, a 6 months delay behind the latest one? So, my money at least eventually improves the open-source version? A license like that would seal the deal for me in a heartbeat.

@atrilahiji As I said, it's not about the cost. I too am happy to pay the cost. But given two alternatives, I want to support a FOSS project with my money, rather than yet another closed-source one. Supporting a closed-source project starves the FOSS alternative for users/mindshare/resources etc.

Points taken for Cloudron being better. But that's precisely why it feels bad not to back a truly open-source project which needs all our help we can give, as opposed to yet another closed-source project that encourages vendor lock-in.

FWIW, HomeLabOS uses Docker and Traefik so the approach is very simple and it supports about 50 apps in all. The main developer is quite responsive and they have a good community going at their Zulip chat group.

@jdaviescoates

Thanks. I don't mind paying 15$/month or even working on porting open-source webapps to these solutions, but open-source just feels better because the benefits of my contribution will be more widely shared.

Has anyone done a comparison of Cloudron vs Homelabos? Both of these work with Docker-based apps. Cloudron seems to have better UI, but HomeLabos is open-source.

Besides comparison, is there any collaboration possible between these two projects? For eg: Can Cloudron's Docker images be used as a starting point for porting apps to HomeLabOs?

+1 for this. v0.10.0 was released in May this year.

+1 for WriteFreely. Among all the Medium-equivalents, this one stands out as polished and ActivityPub-compliant.

+1 for Pleroma as an more resource-efficient alternative to Mastodon.

IMHO, there are serious problems with AGPL-licensed software that is hosted on servers - namely, it allows Amazon AWS , Google GCP, Microsoft Azure etc to take the code and start charging for it without contributing anything back to upstream. The access to code has stopped being the bottleneck. The problem is now centralization. We've seen this happen again and again with Redis, Elastic etc.

The question is whether this risk is worth the developer contributions and user adoption that Cloudron is missing out by NOT being open-source.