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transition could be smoother than I expected it seems, at least based on this thread's comment https://github.com/zadam/trilium/issues/4620#issuecomment-2509921587
Now, I didn't try myself... I was considering to give Trilium a try to replace Obsidian but I'll wait for Trilium Next to be available and stable in Cloudron.

@girish About "app is down", I'm interested in a way to tune "restart automatically" for app being down. It's not the first time I notice an app is down or not responding because it crashed during the night and in the morning I have to manually restart it.
it happened for instance that my wordpress blog was stopped due to high traffic because of being on the frontpage of hacker news... and so was down for several hours... what a pity

oh nice, bringing more fun to Cloudron. I support the idea!

@JLX89 I've tried but I only obtain a json file not a full backup? What am I doing wrong?

I notice the focus becomes stronger on backups, archives and that's for good. despite I did search for this, I couldn't find if it's technically possible or not, so I'm asking here and I'm happy at need to create a separate topic for this, anyway:

• is it possible and planned to download any app backup from Cloudron admin UI without going through the command line?

I bet at some point we save more time as Cloudron users by packaging apps ourselves and documenting the process, maybe improving it via LLM, than waiting for the roadmap

Your post seem to imply we ignore the hard work, but what I think is rather the customers are concerned with staff priorities and worry of the status quo or regression in quality.
There are currently thousands of topics in the wishlist section and no way to see clearly if any will be on the roadmap in the future. If you then compare with how many apps are in the app store it means it would take decades before current wishlist can even partially be addressed.
The staff also mentioned they have more work so cannot deliver interesting apps or apps requiring more complex setup, which raise the natural concern of the customers who see bugs being introduced and dont see more popular apps be included.
So yeah Cloudron has an incredible value but wouldn't be nice to be able for customers to have more influence at least the apps to be picked? Or at least to cleanup the wishlist from the apps that are waiting for too long in the forum to at least not create false hopes.
And as you say packaging Cloudron apps is a challenge but then what is done to simplify this or to call for contributors?
What is done to motivate more customers? Even the referral program was cancelled.
There is of course lot of work around quality and maintenance of apps. This is I believe understood by the customers but yet doesn't invalide the complaints.

I do agree that as a paid customer I feel voting in the forum is a waste of time and also more and more of my questions in various topics are just not answered or the priority/ backlog is not visible to us so it feels like it's going nowhere.
I've seen several topics and complains like this very one but staff gives an impression of being too busy to improve and that's a red flag which becomes very visible to customers, so I Believe more transparency and action is needed or making it more easy for existing customers to contribute more apps and influence the strategy through a serious app voting system.
I stopped suggesting apps to the wishlist because the existing apps in wishlist are waiting for too long without any follow up like nobody from the staff cares anymore. And I want to think I'm wrong.

You know better, so anyway the problem is resolved in the end and that didn't take long, so many thanks!
have a great week-end ahead

Thanks! I've applied the advice immediately.

I notice the impact is partial and sometimes a few dozen or hundred tokens are gone, but lot are left. So it worked in the end but I had to hit the button a few times (7-8?) until reaching 0 and being finally logged out while I would have expected clicking once for all would be enough

Hi
I logged into my Cloudron instance this morning and in my profile and I have noticed that message You have 1134 active web token(s) and 0 CLI token(s).
I had no idea I had so many web tokens and I have no clue what to do with this information. Can I dig deeper and learn more about this ? I don't want to "logout from all" without understanding anything.
Thanks in advance

Is there an update on this?
I'm trying to make a custom bridge :⁠-⁠) which should be simple according to the official RSS Bridge doc.
@girish

Thanks in advance!

@nebulon thanks I believe this will show that user how much you care. This makes my day as a cloudron community member.

Hello,
I was checking cloudron topics in reddit and discovered that it's not possible to search in the forum without an account.
See https://www.reddit.com/r/cloudron/comments/1cmcix4/comment/lwdp791/?context=3

So that seem to add to the pains of some user, and I'm feeling the curiosity to understand what could be a reason not to the forum search more public ? This would ease self help for users. Also it's technically possible as I see the official NodeBB demo forum has also a public search.

What do you think?

I had no problem using Contabo Object Storage and VPS for Cloudron .. until Murphy's law enter the game:

• an outage in September broke availability in Nuremberg Data center and so my backups and my Cloudron instance were unavailable... Panic mode.... And nothing I could see or do. Contabo offered no support because their support page was broken too without failover... That tells a lot.

• few weeks later my dns resolution on Cloudron failed and causes all kind of issues and root cause was the default dns set by Contabo on my VPS, replacing them was needed.

• Object storage was flaky, causing backup issued on my Cloudron instance. Contabo fixed it on demand but without giving any explanation.

• my backup cleanup were always silently frequently failing in Cloudron for a while and only switching to Hetzner storage fixed that

I still have my VPS at Contabo and my backups at Hetzner but ideally I want to move away from Contabo.
By the way their admin panel is ugly. I do not recommend them other than for cheap non business critical and not performance critical stuff.

It's cheap for reasons: quality is not there

I see the clear value of such feature request considering also:

• allow having more than one provider/region for backups just in case
• let the user decide between fully trusting CR or handling backups themselves
• let the users decide additional backups options and rules (exclusions, per app settings like frequency of backups...), through rclone or so especially if cost is related to the frequency and size of backups
• ease cloudron instances migration as backups are already managed by cloudron
• already today Cloudron users and staff spend lot of time dealing with backup issues and being anxious with that. With every backup provider being a different story that can cause failure and dataloss, it would be nice to make
  backups handling a commodity part of the whole package, as a premium feature

But it's a lot of work and likely it's better maybe if cloudron staff makes a poll/analysis beforehand

And the author has just answered the problem for me, such extension exists and works fine on my self-hosted
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/changedetectionio-website/kefcfmgmlhmankjmnbijimhofdjekbop

it makes sense! I didn't develop any web extension for years though, but that's likely a viable option, thanks @nebulon

Hey!
I was following a GitHub discussion about enabling bookmarklets for Changedetection, and we were told it's impossible because of security concerns (CSRF), but it appears, based on a comment in that discussion [1], for a private instance, to disable CSRF tokens (enabled by default in Django) and thus unblock the possibility to use bookmarklets.

I wonder if it's difficult or not to override this behavior maybe during the build of Cloudron's Changedetection app, without having to touch the source of Changedetection app.

Thanks in advance !

[1] https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io/discussions/858#discussioncomment-10478747

I tend to think the right solution for now is in the middle of prioritizing the right apps for Cloudron core team, while also having more community contributors and docs to make it easy to package new apps with sane defaults without help of Cloudron staff, relying on scripts or templates to rely on to avoid too long feedback loops between Cloudron staff and users.

I'm myself interested to help packaging a few apps for Cloudron as I have the skills, I love Cloudron, and I'm Developer/DevOps/SRE very focused on automation/docs and eliminating chore and repetitive tasks. I'm building a small app for my needs right now and I'll likely package it for Cloudron as a custom app, then I bet it will build me some more experience to contribute back to package other apps.

Before finishing this post, it would be very customer-friendly to maybe have a known roadmap of such apps Cloudron staff is busy packaging and the ones for which the staff sees an interest but lacks time, and where community effort is welcome. Having maybe the staff delegating the packaging for some apps to its enthusiastic users will spread the knowledge and increase the speed to ship.

I do agree that I'd love to see at least 2/3x more apps being packaged in Cloudron every year