Elasticsearch
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Hello,
I've seen that there's some conversation about adding Elasticsearch to Cloudron - which is great, but it reads like the plan is to have it in its own container, which for my usecase would not be great.
Is it possible for me to install it through the console in my LAMP app? I tried to use apt-get to do so (following these directions ), but to no avail.
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@Nicolas Cloudron apps are deployed in readonly containers and you thus cannot install code/new packages in existing apps. Can you explain why deploying it in it's own container would not work in your case? AFAIK, That's the correct way to deploy elasticsearch.
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Perhaps my understanding is erroneous, but I was under the impression that apps in containers aren't able to interact with each other on the server and so these things would have to be in the same container to engage with each other appropriately.
However, as I review the documentation using Elasticsearch with the forum software I'd be attaching to it, I realize that as long as the container is able to access the port necessary it should be fine - in which case, I guess I'll just wait patiently for an Elasticsearch app to be available! -
@Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.
If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:
- use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
- alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on
elastic.domain.comand then your app can use it directly.
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@Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.
If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:
- use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
- alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on
elastic.domain.comand then your app can use it directly.
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I think dovecot has to use lucene/sole because the elastic search is only in dovecot enterprise.
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I think dovecot has to use lucene/sole because the elastic search is only in dovecot enterprise.
@girish I found this here. Dovecot Enterprise have developed their own FTS solution that comes with the commercial version of Dovecot.
All the other referenced solutions are working with the FOSS version of Dovecot, so it says.https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/fts/
I keep pushing and hoping....:-)
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@Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.
If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:
- use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
- alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on
elastic.domain.comand then your app can use it directly.
@girish said in Elasticsearch:
Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app.
Hey Grish - this sounds good, and exciting! I noticed that Elasticsearch has been on the roadmap for some time and am wondering if this is something we're likely to see in the Cloudron 6.x series, or if it's much further down the road yet?
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@Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.
If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:
- use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
- alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on
elastic.domain.comand then your app can use it directly.
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Hey @girish - is this still on the roadmap for some time in the future? If so, do you have an idea of when it's likely to be set up?
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I think part of the issue too is elasticsearch is incredibly demanding resource-wise
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I think part of the issue too is elasticsearch is incredibly demanding resource-wise
@atrilahiji I know that Elasticsearch is stopped developing, from opensource into enterprise. And do we develop Elasticsearch from the latest opensource version?
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@Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.
If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:
- use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
- alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on
elastic.domain.comand then your app can use it directly.
@girish said in Elasticsearch:
@Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app.
Might be time to revisit that.
Elasticsearch is open source, again
https://www.elastic.co/blog/elasticsearch-is-open-source-again -
@robi Unfortunately that's the only full text search provider that's supported by Nextcloud…
@andreasdueren welp it's a large community, perhaps someone can be interested in making a plugin for meilisearch or similar
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Since this looked to be unlikely to be included into cloudron, I packaged it into a custom app for myself because I need it for Nextcloud. This app will expose Elasticsearch only locally, for other apps to use. Let me know if anyone wants to help me test it.
