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After Ubuntu 22/24 Upgrade syslog getting spammed and grows way to much clogging up the diskspace

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    joseph
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    wrote last edited by
    #33

    @SansGuidon afaik, Cloudron does not log anything to syslog . Did you happen to check what was inside that massive syslog file? In one of our production cloudrons (running for almost a decade):

    $ du -sh /var/log/syslog*
    5.1M	/var/log/syslog
    6.6M	/var/log/syslog.1
    800K	/var/log/syslog.2.gz
    796K	/var/log/syslog.3.gz
    812K	/var/log/syslog.4.gz
    
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      wrote last edited by SansGuidon
      #34

      Hi @joseph

      root@ubuntu-cloudron-16gb-nbg1-3:~# du -sh /var/log/syslog*
      8.2G	/var/log/syslog
      0	/var/log/syslog.1
      0	/var/log/syslog.1.gz-2025083120.backup
      52K	/var/log/syslog.2.gz
      4.0K	/var/log/syslog.3.gz
      4.0K	/var/log/syslog.4.gz
      

      As mentioned earlier in the discussion , it's due to sqlite backup dumps of UptimeKuma which end in the wrong place.

      root@ubuntu-cloudron-16gb-nbg1-3:~# grep 'INSERT INTO' /var/log/syslog | wc -l
      47237303
      

      And I think this was started being investigated by @nebulon
      This generates a few GBs worth of waste per day on my Cloudron instance which causes regular outages (every few weeks)

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        SansGuidon
        wrote last edited by SansGuidon
        #35

        For now as a workaround I'm applying this patch, please advise if you have any concern with this ๐Ÿ™‚

        diff --git a/box/src/services.js b/box/src/services.js
        --- a/box/src/services.js
        +++ b/box/src/services.js
        @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
         'use strict';
         
         exports = module.exports = {
             getServiceConfig,
         
             listServices,
             getServiceStatus,
        @@ -308,7 +308,7 @@ async function backupSqlite(app, options) {
             // we use .dump instead of .backup because it's more portable across sqlite versions
             for (const p of options.paths) {
                 const outputFile =  path.join(paths.APPS_DATA_DIR, app.id, path.basename(p, path.extname(p)) + '.sqlite');
         
                 // we could use docker exec but it may not work if app is restarting
                 const cmd = `sqlite3 ${p} ".dump"`;
                 const runCmd = `docker run --rm --name=sqlite-${app.id} \
                     --net cloudron \
                     -v ${volumeDataDir}:/app/data \
                     --label isCloudronManaged=true \
        -            --read-only -v /tmp -v /run ${app.manifest.dockerImage} ${cmd} > ${outputFile}`;
        +            --log-driver=none \
        +            --read-only -v /tmp -v /run ${app.manifest.dockerImage} ${cmd} > ${outputFile} 2>/dev/null`;
         
                 await shell.bash(runCmd, { encoding: 'utf8' });
             }
         }
        
        

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        • SansGuidonS SansGuidon

          Hi @joseph

          root@ubuntu-cloudron-16gb-nbg1-3:~# du -sh /var/log/syslog*
          8.2G	/var/log/syslog
          0	/var/log/syslog.1
          0	/var/log/syslog.1.gz-2025083120.backup
          52K	/var/log/syslog.2.gz
          4.0K	/var/log/syslog.3.gz
          4.0K	/var/log/syslog.4.gz
          

          As mentioned earlier in the discussion , it's due to sqlite backup dumps of UptimeKuma which end in the wrong place.

          root@ubuntu-cloudron-16gb-nbg1-3:~# grep 'INSERT INTO' /var/log/syslog | wc -l
          47237303
          

          And I think this was started being investigated by @nebulon
          This generates a few GBs worth of waste per day on my Cloudron instance which causes regular outages (every few weeks)

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          joseph
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          wrote last edited by joseph
          #36

          @SansGuidon I think @nebulon investigated and could not reproduce. We also run uptime kuma. Our logs are fine. Have you enabled backups inside uptime kuma or something else by any chance?

          root@my:~# docker ps | grep uptime
          cb00714073cb   cloudron/louislam.uptimekuma.app:202508221422060000    "/app/pkg/start.sh"      2 weeks ago    Up 2 weeks                                            ee6e4628-c370-4713-9cb6-f1888c32f8fb
          root@my:~# du -sh /var/log/syslog*
          352K	/var/log/syslog
          904K	/var/log/syslog.1
          116K	/var/log/syslog.2.gz
          112K	/var/log/syslog.3.gz
          112K	/var/log/syslog.4.gz
          108K	/var/log/syslog.5.gz
          112K	/var/log/syslog.6.gz
          108K	/var/log/syslog.7.gz
          root@my:~# grep 'INSERT INTO' /var/log/syslog | wc -l
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            joseph
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            wrote last edited by joseph
            #37

            FWIW, our db is pretty big too.

            image.png

            @SansGuidon the command is just sqlite3 ${p} ".dump" and it is redirected to a file. Do you have any ideas of why this will log sql commands to syslog? I can't reproduce this by running the command manually.

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              wrote last edited by SansGuidon
              #38

              @joseph I don't see any special setting in UptimeKuma being applied in my instance. Can you try to reproduce with those instructions below? Hope that makes sense

              Ensure your default logdriver is journald:

              systemctl show docker -p ExecStart
              

              Should show something like

              ExecStart={ path=/usr/bin/dockerd ; argv[]=/usr/bin/dockerd -H fd:// --log-driver=journald --exec-opt native.cgroupdriver=cgroupfs --storage-driver=overlay2 --experimental --ip6tables --use>
              

              Then try to mimic what backupSqlite() does (no log driver; redirect only outside docker run):

              docker run --rm alpine sh -lc 'for i in $(seq 1 3); do echo "INSERT INTO t VALUES($i);"; done' > /tmp/out.sql
              

              Observe duplicates got logged to syslog anyway:

              grep 'INSERT INTO t VALUES' /var/log/syslog | wc -l   # > 0
              cat /tmp/out.sql | wc -l                              # same 3 lines
              

              Now repeat with logging disabled (what the fix does):

              docker run --rm --log-driver=none alpine sh -lc 'for i in $(seq 1 3); do echo "INSERT INTO t VALUES($i);"; done' > /tmp/out2.sql
              grep 'INSERT INTO t VALUES' /var/log/syslog | wc -l   # unchanged
              

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                wrote last edited by girish
                #39

                @SansGuidon thanks for the repro. I have to say I can easily reproduce not only your test but also uptime kuma backup issue on my test Cloudron. At the same time, I have verified that @joseph's observation is also correct - our prod uptime kuma does not produce any spurious logs. Wonder what is going on... I am debugging.

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                  girish
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                  #40

                  @SansGuidon What is your ubuntu and docker version?

                  That Cloudron is on Ubuntu 20.04 and docker 27.3.1 . Here it's not reproducible.

                  My test cloudron is on 24.04 and docker 28.1.1 (it's from dev branch). Here it's reproducible.

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                    SansGuidon
                    wrote last edited by
                    #41

                    @girish Docker 27.3.1 and Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS

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                      girish
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                      #42

                      @SansGuidon thanks, fixed in https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/e45af9b611f4d0c3b77d4329aac24bacf98e4e6c . I could not figure out why it's not reproducible on that old Cloudron but I can reproduce it everywhere else . Maybe some Ubuntu 20.04 quirk .

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