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AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative

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  • SansGuidonS Offline
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    #24

    Unfortunately the AI features are not available yet for the self hosted version. I also found the tool Interface quite confusing. Maybe I'll wait and package something else, but I'm likely not the ideal target for Affine.

    About me / Now

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      wrote on last edited by neki
      #25

      As a long-term Notion user, I have been testing it locally for a few days. It seems very promising; the import of simple pages from Notion is smooth and easy. It would be great to run it on Cloudron.

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        #26

        This looks good, I have launched a simple deployment via docker compose. Seems like a great Cloudron addition.
        https://docs.affine.pro/self-host-affine/install/docker-compose-recommend

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          I would love to see this on Cloudron.

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            #28

            I'm going to get on the seesaw, too! I have this running on my Runtipi installation. That VPS has 8GB ram, and is also running 5 other apps (Photoprism is one, Obsidian LiveSync is another), and the CPU usage rarely goes over 15% for all of them. Memory fluctuates from 25% to 30%.

            What I really like about it is the Journal aspect. Yeah, I know, I could just make a new file with the date and all that, but this presents you with a nice little spot for a journal entry. Helps me, mentally, to write in a journal.

            I also like the macos and Android clients. Speedy syncing. I'd prefer to see this rather than Twenty!!

            A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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              I packaged this to try it out. Works well but I'm not entirely sure what the exact target group for this application is. For documentation it seems confusing and overkill. Maybe personal notetaking could work. Image available at andreasdueren/affine-cloudron:0.25.3

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              • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                I packaged this to try it out. Works well but I'm not entirely sure what the exact target group for this application is. For documentation it seems confusing and overkill. Maybe personal notetaking could work. Image available at andreasdueren/affine-cloudron:0.25.3

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                @andreasdueren I added it to Custom App Installer ccai.appx.uk

                Hope this is ok (I'll remove if you want)

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                • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                  I packaged this to try it out. Works well but I'm not entirely sure what the exact target group for this application is. For documentation it seems confusing and overkill. Maybe personal notetaking could work. Image available at andreasdueren/affine-cloudron:0.25.3

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                  #31

                  @andreasdueren I'm happy to try it on my instance thanks to you! Installed and deployed 😜 , I'll test

                  EDIT: in the end, I notice I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral) and I'm also lost in Affine Admin View . Maybe it's just not mature enough for me at this stage

                  Your packaging looks great, at least it works like a charm for me πŸ™‚ (I just had to clone the repo so I have the CloudronManifest available for install).

                  Thanks!

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                  • SansGuidonS SansGuidon

                    @andreasdueren I'm happy to try it on my instance thanks to you! Installed and deployed 😜 , I'll test

                    EDIT: in the end, I notice I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral) and I'm also lost in Affine Admin View . Maybe it's just not mature enough for me at this stage

                    Your packaging looks great, at least it works like a charm for me πŸ™‚ (I just had to clone the repo so I have the CloudronManifest available for install).

                    Thanks!

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                    #32

                    @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                    I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral)

                    I haven't tested any of the AI features. But in theory you should be able to enter any openai compatible endpoint. I assume, Mistral does have one?

                    What are your issues with the admin view? It's pretty basic with few variables able to be set up, most things are set up with env and should be ready with the package as is.

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                    • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                      @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                      I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral)

                      I haven't tested any of the AI features. But in theory you should be able to enter any openai compatible endpoint. I assume, Mistral does have one?

                      What are your issues with the admin view? It's pretty basic with few variables able to be set up, most things are set up with env and should be ready with the package as is.

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                      wrote last edited by SansGuidon
                      #33

                      @andreasdueren said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                      @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                      I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral)

                      I haven't tested any of the AI features. But in theory you should be able to enter any openai compatible endpoint. I assume, Mistral does have one?

                      What are your issues with the admin view? It's pretty basic with few variables able to be set up, most things are set up with env and should be ready with the package as is.

                      What I'm confused about is the onboarding flow: we are directed to the Admin view in the accounts list (which are not verified but I don't see how to solve that).
                      I'm trying to configure AI but no way to confirm if my entered settings are valid? The save button is just an icon without text, on a corner of the page, not really a good UX.
                      Then how do we find the main app from the Admin view? The main icon at top left is not even a link. Maybe the Admin view is the poor part of the UX, but that's where we land first and it looks like an escape game.

                      I find it just not super user friendly, maybe we gets used to it πŸ™‚ but it looks like the Frontend part is worth improving.

                      EDIT: I tried to use Mistral but it fails on copilot provider not available, something like that
                      I found this blog post, which mentions that maybe we have to tweak the code of Affine to make things work. https://sneekes.app/posts/getting_affine_ai_copilot_working_with_custom_models_and_ollama/

                      I'll dig deeper in that later πŸ™‚ , kids require attention 😜

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                      • SansGuidonS SansGuidon

                        @andreasdueren said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                        @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                        I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral)

                        I haven't tested any of the AI features. But in theory you should be able to enter any openai compatible endpoint. I assume, Mistral does have one?

                        What are your issues with the admin view? It's pretty basic with few variables able to be set up, most things are set up with env and should be ready with the package as is.

                        What I'm confused about is the onboarding flow: we are directed to the Admin view in the accounts list (which are not verified but I don't see how to solve that).
                        I'm trying to configure AI but no way to confirm if my entered settings are valid? The save button is just an icon without text, on a corner of the page, not really a good UX.
                        Then how do we find the main app from the Admin view? The main icon at top left is not even a link. Maybe the Admin view is the poor part of the UX, but that's where we land first and it looks like an escape game.

                        I find it just not super user friendly, maybe we gets used to it πŸ™‚ but it looks like the Frontend part is worth improving.

                        EDIT: I tried to use Mistral but it fails on copilot provider not available, something like that
                        I found this blog post, which mentions that maybe we have to tweak the code of Affine to make things work. https://sneekes.app/posts/getting_affine_ai_copilot_working_with_custom_models_and_ollama/

                        I'll dig deeper in that later πŸ™‚ , kids require attention 😜

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                        andreasdueren
                        wrote last edited by
                        #34

                        @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                        @andreasdueren said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                        @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                        I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral)

                        I haven't tested any of the AI features. But in theory you should be able to enter any openai compatible endpoint. I assume, Mistral does have one?

                        What are your issues with the admin view? It's pretty basic with few variables able to be set up, most things are set up with env and should be ready with the package as is.

                        What I'm confused about is the onboarding flow: we are directed to the Admin view in the accounts list (which are not verified but I don't see how to solve that).
                        I'm trying to configure AI but no way to confirm if my entered settings are valid? The save button is just an icon without text, on a corner of the page, not really a good UX.
                        Then how do we find the main app from the Admin view? The main icon at top left is not even a link. Maybe the Admin view is the poor part of the UX, but that's where we land first and it looks like an escape game.

                        I find it just not super user friendly, maybe we gets used to it πŸ™‚ but it looks like the Frontend part is worth improving.

                        EDIT: I tried to use Mistral but it fails on copilot provider not available, something like that
                        I found this blog post, which mentions that maybe we have to tweak the code of Affine to make things work. https://sneekes.app/posts/getting_affine_ai_copilot_working_with_custom_models_and_ollama/

                        I'll dig deeper in that later πŸ™‚ , kids require attention 😜

                        Yeah onboarding was a bit odd. You land in the admin view and need to manually navigate to the base domain to see the app. After the admin was created you can log in with openID though and make that user an admin.

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                        • SansGuidonS SansGuidon

                          @andreasdueren said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                          @SansGuidon said in AFFiNE - open-source Notion, Miro, Monday, Outline, Appflowy alternative:

                          I don't understand how to make Affine work with my AI subscription (Mistral)

                          I haven't tested any of the AI features. But in theory you should be able to enter any openai compatible endpoint. I assume, Mistral does have one?

                          What are your issues with the admin view? It's pretty basic with few variables able to be set up, most things are set up with env and should be ready with the package as is.

                          What I'm confused about is the onboarding flow: we are directed to the Admin view in the accounts list (which are not verified but I don't see how to solve that).
                          I'm trying to configure AI but no way to confirm if my entered settings are valid? The save button is just an icon without text, on a corner of the page, not really a good UX.
                          Then how do we find the main app from the Admin view? The main icon at top left is not even a link. Maybe the Admin view is the poor part of the UX, but that's where we land first and it looks like an escape game.

                          I find it just not super user friendly, maybe we gets used to it πŸ™‚ but it looks like the Frontend part is worth improving.

                          EDIT: I tried to use Mistral but it fails on copilot provider not available, something like that
                          I found this blog post, which mentions that maybe we have to tweak the code of Affine to make things work. https://sneekes.app/posts/getting_affine_ai_copilot_working_with_custom_models_and_ollama/

                          I'll dig deeper in that later πŸ™‚ , kids require attention 😜

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                          andreasdueren
                          wrote last edited by andreasdueren
                          #35

                          @SansGuidon

                          I tried to use Mistral but it fails on copilot provider not available, something like that
                          I found this blog post, which mentions that maybe we have to tweak the code of Affine to make things work. https://sneekes.app/posts/getting_affine_ai_copilot_working_with_custom_models_and_ollama/

                          Weird. I can try to modify something for the package but this makes it sound like you need to select a provider on built which isn’t really optimal.

                          Edit: Just sent you a message for further testing.

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                            #36

                            I think I also see part of the problem:

                            It requires the cloud indexer to be running Indexer

                            I'll try to add manticore to the package.

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