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Snikket Server - Your own messaging server in a box

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  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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    jdaviescoates
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    #16

    Here is the web portal:

    https://github.com/snikket-im/snikket-web-portal

    And here are the self-hosting instructions:

    https://github.com/snikket-im/snikket-selfhosted

    And here is the source repository for building Snikket service Docker images:

    https://github.com/snikket-im/snikket-server

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • L LoudLemur

      Snicket seems to only have clients for Android and Mac:
      https://github.com/search?q=topic%3Aapp+org%3Asnikket-im&type=repositories

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      @LoudLemur Snikket is just an XMPP server - any XMPP client that supports the same XMPP Extensions it uses it will work fine.

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      ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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        Lets support XMPP on Cloudron by packaging Snickket! There is an ai summary of progress since @robi made the original request here:

        https://privatebin.demo.cloudron.io/?39e1a2ac0124f319#7wVtyc66t51BK2SpX7TudDPVpZm5sDqSmJCDvsrBqCXn

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          Thanks for the upvote! I'm biased, but I think Prosody is the better choice. Snikket has too many things they do not (and possibly never will) support. The #1 reason I didn't package Snikket is not being able to use my TLD for accounts. It's a common convention to use user@domain.com for both e-mail and XMPP, but Snikket doesn't support this. The #2 reason is SSO - Snikket doesn't support it but SSO is one of my favorite features of most Cloudron apps.

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            Thanks for the upvote! I'm biased, but I think Prosody is the better choice. Snikket has too many things they do not (and possibly never will) support. The #1 reason I didn't package Snikket is not being able to use my TLD for accounts. It's a common convention to use user@domain.com for both e-mail and XMPP, but Snikket doesn't support this. The #2 reason is SSO - Snikket doesn't support it but SSO is one of my favorite features of most Cloudron apps.

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            @djxx said in Snikket Server - Your own messaging server in a box:

            The #1 reason I didn't package Snikket is not being able to use my TLD for accounts. It's a common convention to use user@domain.com for both e-mail and XMPP, but Snikket doesn't support this.

            Really? That sounds very odd. Does it require subdomains, or what?

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              @djxx said in Snikket Server - Your own messaging server in a box:

              The #1 reason I didn't package Snikket is not being able to use my TLD for accounts. It's a common convention to use user@domain.com for both e-mail and XMPP, but Snikket doesn't support this.

              Really? That sounds very odd. Does it require subdomains, or what?

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              @jdaviescoates What it requires is that your username matches the TLD it is deployed to, which means it needs to be installed as the "root" application on that domain. This is incompatible with Cloudron, and frankly with how many organizations operate. It's very common to have XMPP installed somewhere like xmpp.domain.com , and the protocol supports configuration to use the TLD for accounts. This is one of the areas where Snikket is firmly standing by "it should be so simple and require no configuration" - so either you install it at the root or you live with ugly usernames like user@xmpp.domain.com.

              I don't think it's worth the time to customize something that doesn't want to be customized - but rather use something that is meant to be configured and come up with sane defaults that fit Cloudron. That's what I've tried to do with my Prosody packaging.

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                Maybe it's a simple thing to adjust in the code and have a fork.

                Then there is the maintenance issue.

                Conscious tech

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                  Maybe it's a simple thing to adjust in the code and have a fork.

                  Then there is the maintenance issue.

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                  @robi said in Snikket Server - Your own messaging server in a box:

                  Maybe it's a simple thing to adjust in the code and have a fork.

                  Then there is the maintenance issue.

                  Yes, the maintenance would be quite an issue. I guess Snikket will put 0 effort into not breaking customizations they told people not to make in the first place.

                  Prosody (and ejabberd) take care to be backwards compatible with older configurations, and follow a well-documented deprecation process when they're going to make breaking changes.

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                    Thanks for explaining. A shame as I liked the sound of Snikket (and it's by one of the lead devs of Prosody, I think)

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      Thanks for explaining. A shame as I liked the sound of Snikket (and it's by one of the lead devs of Prosody, I think)

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                      @jdaviescoates can you ping him and ask how hard the upkeep would be for a new fork the way we need it?

                      Perhaps call it Snicketteer 🙂

                      Conscious tech

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