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  • timconsidineT Online
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    timconsidine
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    I use Sophos, for my Mac desktop and laptop. I probably need to review this so I’m interested in others’ answers.

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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      Eset when needed, mostly not necessary.

      Conscious tech

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        Malwarebytes free on windows. It detected a sneaky and persistent cryptomining malware that windows security missed. You get the occasional notification ad to buy a subscription and a reminder that it hasn’t scanned recent downloaded files. Other than that, no complaints.

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          I use Sophos, for my Mac desktop and laptop. I probably need to review this so I’m interested in others’ answers.

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          @timconsidine said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

          I use Sophos, for my Mac desktop and laptop. I probably need to review this so I’m interested in others’ answers.

          Sophos if I am not mistaken it's only for enterprise, right? What's your consideration using Sophos?

          @robi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

          Eset when needed, mostly not necessary.

          What's the OS that you're using? So, you don't need AV on smartphone and laptop?

          @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

          Malwarebytes free on windows. It detected a sneaky and persistent cryptomining malware that windows security missed. You get the occasional notification ad to buy a subscription and a reminder that it hasn’t scanned recent downloaded files. Other than that, no complaints.

          Yes, I also used Malwarebytes but I consider other AV like Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

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            @timconsidine said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

            I use Sophos, for my Mac desktop and laptop. I probably need to review this so I’m interested in others’ answers.

            Sophos if I am not mistaken it's only for enterprise, right? What's your consideration using Sophos?

            @robi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

            Eset when needed, mostly not necessary.

            What's the OS that you're using? So, you don't need AV on smartphone and laptop?

            @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

            Malwarebytes free on windows. It detected a sneaky and persistent cryptomining malware that windows security missed. You get the occasional notification ad to buy a subscription and a reminder that it hasn’t scanned recent downloaded files. Other than that, no complaints.

            Yes, I also used Malwarebytes but I consider other AV like Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

            timconsidineT Online
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            timconsidine
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            #6

            @IniBudi I took Sophos as a personal but multi device plan. Years ago. Seems to have rolled on.

            I use Mac and iOS so no viruses there (ha ha ha).
            But I need to review.

            Don’t generally use android but just got new tablet, so need to review for that.

            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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            • I IniBudi

              @timconsidine said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

              I use Sophos, for my Mac desktop and laptop. I probably need to review this so I’m interested in others’ answers.

              Sophos if I am not mistaken it's only for enterprise, right? What's your consideration using Sophos?

              @robi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

              Eset when needed, mostly not necessary.

              What's the OS that you're using? So, you don't need AV on smartphone and laptop?

              @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

              Malwarebytes free on windows. It detected a sneaky and persistent cryptomining malware that windows security missed. You get the occasional notification ad to buy a subscription and a reminder that it hasn’t scanned recent downloaded files. Other than that, no complaints.

              Yes, I also used Malwarebytes but I consider other AV like Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

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              @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

              Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

              It's all about resource usage as some will noticeably slow down your device. Avoid Norton at all costs. Bitdefender is good. Kaspersky is/has Russian ties. Eset was my favorite back in the day due to how lightweight it was and pricing fit my student budget. Malwarebytes free is what I use nowadays, but if you're looking for real-time protection then get one of their premium plans. If I wasn't tied to Windows due to my CAD software requirements, I would have switched to Linux or Mac. Like Tim, I also have an iPhone so I'm covered on that end. I don't use any AV on my CR servers. There are some discussions about this on the forum if you're interested.

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

                It's all about resource usage as some will noticeably slow down your device. Avoid Norton at all costs. Bitdefender is good. Kaspersky is/has Russian ties. Eset was my favorite back in the day due to how lightweight it was and pricing fit my student budget. Malwarebytes free is what I use nowadays, but if you're looking for real-time protection then get one of their premium plans. If I wasn't tied to Windows due to my CAD software requirements, I would have switched to Linux or Mac. Like Tim, I also have an iPhone so I'm covered on that end. I don't use any AV on my CR servers. There are some discussions about this on the forum if you're interested.

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                @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                Kaspersky is/has Russian ties.

                In Germany, you use it anymore in a business context due to the offical warning of the Federal Office for Information Security (BSI), as such use against a warning would not be considered "state of the art".
                https://www.heise.de/en/news/BSI-Warning-against-Kaspersky-products-still-valid-after-US-sanctions-9777484.html

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  @IniBudi I took Sophos as a personal but multi device plan. Years ago. Seems to have rolled on.

                  I use Mac and iOS so no viruses there (ha ha ha).
                  But I need to review.

                  Don’t generally use android but just got new tablet, so need to review for that.

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                  @timconsidine said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                  @IniBudi I took Sophos as a personal but multi device plan. Years ago. Seems to have rolled on.

                  I use Mac and iOS so no viruses there (ha ha ha).
                  But I need to review.

                  Don’t generally use android but just got new tablet, so need to review for that.

                  Haha, thank you.

                  I got a new insight here. I don't recognize that Mac and iOS are better than Windows and Android in terms of malware infection.

                  One day, I need to switch to iOS. Currently, I'm using Windows 11 (office laptop), and my personal devices are Mac and Android.

                  @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                  @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                  Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

                  It's all about resource usage as some will noticeably slow down your device. Avoid Norton at all costs. Bitdefender is good. Kaspersky is/has Russian ties. Eset was my favorite back in the day due to how lightweight it was and pricing fit my student budget. Malwarebytes free is what I use nowadays, but if you're looking for real-time protection then get one of their premium plans. If I wasn't tied to Windows due to my CAD software requirements, I would have switched to Linux or Mac. Like Tim, I also have an iPhone so I'm covered on that end. I don't use any AV on my CR servers. There are some discussions about this on the forum if you're interested.

                  Thank you for the recommendation and your valuable insight! I read these reports, and your statement is similar to these reports:

                  • https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/summary-report-2025/
                  • https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/
                  • https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/mobile-devices/

                  @necrevistonnezr said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                  @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                  Kaspersky is/has Russian ties.

                  In Germany, you use it anymore in a business context due to the offical warning of the Federal Office for Information Security (BSI), as such use against a warning would not be considered "state of the art".
                  https://www.heise.de/en/news/BSI-Warning-against-Kaspersky-products-still-valid-after-US-sanctions-9777484.html

                  Ah, I see, it's not only about product benefit, but it's more than that, I mean, it's talking about compliance risk.

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                    @timconsidine said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                    @IniBudi I took Sophos as a personal but multi device plan. Years ago. Seems to have rolled on.

                    I use Mac and iOS so no viruses there (ha ha ha).
                    But I need to review.

                    Don’t generally use android but just got new tablet, so need to review for that.

                    Haha, thank you.

                    I got a new insight here. I don't recognize that Mac and iOS are better than Windows and Android in terms of malware infection.

                    One day, I need to switch to iOS. Currently, I'm using Windows 11 (office laptop), and my personal devices are Mac and Android.

                    @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                    @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                    Bitdefender, Kaspersky, or Norton. WDYT?

                    It's all about resource usage as some will noticeably slow down your device. Avoid Norton at all costs. Bitdefender is good. Kaspersky is/has Russian ties. Eset was my favorite back in the day due to how lightweight it was and pricing fit my student budget. Malwarebytes free is what I use nowadays, but if you're looking for real-time protection then get one of their premium plans. If I wasn't tied to Windows due to my CAD software requirements, I would have switched to Linux or Mac. Like Tim, I also have an iPhone so I'm covered on that end. I don't use any AV on my CR servers. There are some discussions about this on the forum if you're interested.

                    Thank you for the recommendation and your valuable insight! I read these reports, and your statement is similar to these reports:

                    • https://www.av-comparatives.org/tests/summary-report-2025/
                    • https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/
                    • https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/mobile-devices/

                    @necrevistonnezr said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                    @humptydumpty said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                    Kaspersky is/has Russian ties.

                    In Germany, you use it anymore in a business context due to the offical warning of the Federal Office for Information Security (BSI), as such use against a warning would not be considered "state of the art".
                    https://www.heise.de/en/news/BSI-Warning-against-Kaspersky-products-still-valid-after-US-sanctions-9777484.html

                    Ah, I see, it's not only about product benefit, but it's more than that, I mean, it's talking about compliance risk.

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                    timconsidineT Online
                    timconsidine
                    App Dev
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                    @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                    I got a new insight here. I don't recognize that Mac and iOS are better than Windows and Android in terms of malware infection.

                    Well Mac and iOS are not immune - best approach is AV is still needed - but I think it is fair to say that they are less targeted and more robust.

                    My 'ha ha ha' comment was not intended as gloating, but scepticism. Hope I did not give the wrong impression.

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                      I got a new insight here. I don't recognize that Mac and iOS are better than Windows and Android in terms of malware infection.

                      Well Mac and iOS are not immune - best approach is AV is still needed - but I think it is fair to say that they are less targeted and more robust.

                      My 'ha ha ha' comment was not intended as gloating, but scepticism. Hope I did not give the wrong impression.

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                      @timconsidine said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                      @IniBudi said in What's Your Antivirus Recommendation?:

                      I got a new insight here. I don't recognize that Mac and iOS are better than Windows and Android in terms of malware infection.

                      Well Mac and iOS are not immune - best approach is AV is still needed - but I think it is fair to say that they are less targeted and more robust.

                      My 'ha ha ha' comment was not intended as gloating, but scepticism. Hope I did not give the wrong impression.

                      Thank you, yes I got your points. 😁

                      I ask this question because I believe you and other members here are more experience and expert than me.

                      So every comments will be good insight for me non tech guys. 😁 🤝

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                        You gotta follow some basic online safety rules like:

                        • don't open emails that you don't recognize the sender
                        • if something seems too good to be true, it MOST DEFINITELY is nowadays (forget about deals because of tarriffs, inflation, ai-flation, yada yada)
                        • learn how to read email headers (it'll tell you who sent it, to whom, and more crucial info) to verify authenticity
                        • NEVER open attachments in emails unless you're expecting that message, can verify the sender from the header, then have it scanned by malwarebytes.
                        • NEVER click on shortened/masked URLs (e.g. https://tinyurl.com/cutecatz7255)
                        • learn how to view the URL link embedded in text (e.g. free sh1t
                        • scan everything you download online
                        • run periodic scans using malwarebytes
                        • grab a hot beverage and look up onion cyber security

                        More advanced protection but inconvenient to most users:

                        • encrypt your files using cryptomator
                        • keep +1 non-encrypted copies in cold storage at different locations and keep it synced/up-to-date regularly
                        • use a basic PC for browsing/downloading (e.g. old laptop with NOTHING on it, ready to be formatted once infected using a restore point if on windows)
                        • better yet, use a linux distro launched from a usb drive
                        • use a password manager like vaultwarden
                        • use a yubikey to secure vaultwarden (get two keys; one to act as a backup that's sitting in cold storage)
                        • set up a physical firewall using OPNsense or similar
                        • use an app firewall like glasswire or portmaster
                        • disable wifi when not in use
                        • install a mobile app called FING to see who's on your network and make sure you recognize all listed devices
                        • wear a tin foil hat proudly and be prepared to tell the naysayers "told you so" 😎
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