Bisq (decentralised P2P bitcoin exchange) on Cloudron

[timconsidine]

• Title: Bisq on Cloudron - The decentralized P2P Bitcoin exchange

If Bitcoin’s motto is "be your own bank," Bisq’s motto is "be your own exchange."

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• Main Page: https://bisq.network/
• Git: https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq
• Licence: AGPL-3.0
• Dockerfile: No (Official Docker repo is archived/read-only) ... but I am building one
• Screengrab: https://bisq.network/images/screens/bisq_hero_light.png
• Video Intro:

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• Summary:
  Bisq is a safe, private, and decentralized way to exchange bitcoin for national currencies and other digital assets. It uses peer-to-peer networking and multi-signature escrow to facilitate trading without a third party. Bisq is non-custodial (i.e. you keep your own wallet), requires no registration or identity verification (No KYC), and incorporates a human arbitration system to resolve disputes.

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• Notes:
  I would love to see this on Cloudron to run a 24/7 trading node.
  It's mostly a desktop app, but I don't want it always running on my desktop, and closing/opening requires re-establishing Tor and network data.
  I have been using it sporadically for few years (so I am scratching another itch).

Why it's great:

• True P2P and censorship-resistant.
• No central servers; data is stored locally.
• Integrated Tor for privacy.
• Non-custodial : keep your wallet out of exchanges which might go pop, fizzle or get hacked.

PLAN - 2 apps :

• Desktop equivalent in a browser
• Headless API for integration with Openclaw/Nanobot/AgentZero bots

Packaging Concerns:

• Architecture: It is a Java-based desktop application (JavaFX), not a web server. Packaging for Cloudron will likely require a "Desktop-in-Browser" approach (Xvfb + x11vnc + noVNC) or running the headless API daemon with a separate web UI.
• Resources: Java applications can be memory-intensive.
• Persistence: Requires careful handling of the data directory to ensure wallet and trade state are preserved across updates.

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• Alternative to / Libhunt link: https://www.libhunt.com/r/bisq
• Screenshots:

[timconsidine]

If anyone knows of something better than BISQ, let me know so I can check it out, maybe switch.

There is an Android app but as I am mostly iOS, I want BISQ Headless for my bots. Bisq GUI might help others w/o bots, as well as being a useful visual engagement.

[timconsidine]

1. I've packaged the first of the planned BISQ apps, a headless Bisq daemon (v1.9.22) for Cloudron with a lightweight HTTP API wrapper.

Repo:
https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-bisq-api

Quick Start:

• Sample Commands : Visit the app's /api/help page.
• Testing : Use the test-api.sh script in the repo to verify responses locally.
• Status : Check /api/status for sync progress.

Notes:

• Auth for requests to be added
• Sample OpenClaw skills will be added later.
• I will make this into a Community App later.

2. Next up : attempt a BISQ GUI for visual UI and "desktop equivalent"

[timconsidine]

v0.0.3 : Bisq Headless : requests need api key auth.

[timconsidine]

v0.0.2 : BISQ GUI released

Git repo : https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-bisqgui

Will make a Community App after I move to 9.1

Notes :

• makes Bisq desktop app accessible in a browser
• access from any device
• reduces cumulative start-up time compared to desktop, which might often be closed and opened only when needed (each close/open requires Tor connection and market info to be loaded)
• decentralised P2P so no exchange-based purchases with associated KYC blocks and trade identity leakage.

Security:

• protected by Cloudron proxyAuth
• but it is essentially a single-use app, so make the app visibility and access in Cloudron app dashboard single user also
• make sure you set a wallet password
• don't put your life savings in it (for me this is short-term trades only, long-term trades/position holding is done with Trezor cold wallet)
• consider purchasing on BISQ then moving purchases to a cold wallet for longer term holding

[timconsidine]

BISQ API (headless) :

• added a SKILL.md for use with Nanobot / Openclaw

[robi]

Amazing, you did it!

Congratulations