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How to proctect instances from Bot, Crawlers, Requests, & Co?

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    joseph
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    Is there a service out there that provides AI block lists? crowdsec only has a platinum list at 3500/month ?

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      @jdaviescoates @joseph Thanks, I wouldn't want to rely on outside services.

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        @jdaviescoates @joseph Thanks, I wouldn't want to rely on outside services.

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        @p44 TBH wrt WordPress i'd expect Wordfence would likely do a much better job that you'd ever be able to do manually. They have very long blocklists and know about many more bad IPs than you do. I just use the free version.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          @jdaviescoates Thanks, it seems that they don’t block AI bots...

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            Can you extract the blocklists from Wordfence to have it populate the Cloudron deny list?

            Conscious tech

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              @robi Thanks for advice.

              I don’t know where and if Wordfence has a public list, but I think that blocklists has a lot of data that can be huge to handle from CPU.

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                @robi Thanks for advice.

                I don’t know where and if Wordfence has a public list, but I think that blocklists has a lot of data that can be huge to handle from CPU.

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                @p44 those are solved problems with lookup tables.

                Conscious tech

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                  @robi Thanks for advice.

                  I don’t know where and if Wordfence has a public list, but I think that blocklists has a lot of data that can be huge to handle from CPU.

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                  @p44 I think Wordfence adds stuff to .htaccess

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • robiR robi

                    @p44 those are solved problems with lookup tables.

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                    @robi Thanks a lot.

                    I found and applied specific rules in Wordpress .htaccess:

                    • 8G Firewall
                    • Ultimate Block List to Stop AI Bots

                    I think is a good start.

                    Both filters it seems working fine. Of course, it would better to manage and deploy centrally.

                    Thanks again for your advices Robi.

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                      @robi Thanks a lot.

                      I found and applied specific rules in Wordpress .htaccess:

                      • 8G Firewall
                      • Ultimate Block List to Stop AI Bots

                      I think is a good start.

                      Both filters it seems working fine. Of course, it would better to manage and deploy centrally.

                      Thanks again for your advices Robi.

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                      @p44 You are very welcome.

                      Now making a tool to parse those IPs for the Cloudron block list is something an eager LLM agent could do.

                      Conscious tech

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                        @p44 You are very welcome.

                        Now making a tool to parse those IPs for the Cloudron block list is something an eager LLM agent could do.

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                        @robi Amazing!!!

                        Something like a “bridge” that every day take from the source and update Cloudron block list...

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