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  • B bazinga

    Yes, Matrix seems to be a decent system, but who knows how great its security really is. After all lots of people seem to think Signal is a privacy focused chat app.

    Understand your position regarding the audience and functionality. Makes sense, I guess. Will this be only chat or video calls as well?

    As for the desktop app. Well, if you can consider cross DE app - it'd be a much better time investment (in my mind, obviously) as you wouldn't need to re-write for other platforms.

    avatar1024A
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    avatar1024
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    wrote last edited by
    #14

    @bazinga said:

    after all lots of people seem to think Signal is a privacy focused chat app.

    Damn, I might be one of those...what's the issue with it?

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    • avatar1024A avatar1024

      @bazinga said:

      after all lots of people seem to think Signal is a privacy focused chat app.

      Damn, I might be one of those...what's the issue with it?

      jdaviescoatesJ
      jdaviescoatesJ
      jdaviescoates
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      wrote last edited by jdaviescoates
      #15

      @avatar1024 not a lot IMHO, but some don't like that it's connected to phone numbers. Although you can also have usernames too now and even when you've got someone's number Signal doesn't display it so 🤷

      IMHO it's still the best option that isn't confusing to use for average normal people.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • timconsidineT
        timconsidineT
        timconsidine
        App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
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        #16

        Chat app is great, but I think I misunderstood positioning.
        It's not a general chat app - channels and DMs require the other user to be have a Cloudron account ?

        I have a new use case and thought this would be good to use, but it's restricted to users of my Cloudron instance - yes ?

        Not an issue, I just misunderstood positioning.

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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          joseph
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          #17

          @timconsidine we use it as the company Chat. It replaced Matrix for us. It's not meant to replace WhatsApp/Signal etc. It's a mattermost replacement for an org.

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          • J joseph

            @timconsidine we use it as the company Chat. It replaced Matrix for us. It's not meant to replace WhatsApp/Signal etc. It's a mattermost replacement for an org.

            timconsidineT
            timconsidineT
            timconsidine
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            wrote last edited by timconsidine
            #18

            @joseph thank you for clarification.

            It's not meant to replace WhatsApp/Signal etc.

            Good, not what I'm aiming at.

            It's a mattermost replacement for an org.

            Also good.
            But cloudron users comes unstuck for this specific use-case.

            I have no problem with Matrix/Mattermost.
            But the user group in question would struggle with them.
            And I'm not adding them to my Cloudron (could be thousands).

            Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              @joseph thank you for clarification.

              It's not meant to replace WhatsApp/Signal etc.

              Good, not what I'm aiming at.

              It's a mattermost replacement for an org.

              Also good.
              But cloudron users comes unstuck for this specific use-case.

              I have no problem with Matrix/Mattermost.
              But the user group in question would struggle with them.
              And I'm not adding them to my Cloudron (could be thousands).

              humptyH
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              wrote last edited by humpty
              #19

              @timconsidine you're looking for IRC-ish style chats where you just visit a site, enter a username, and start chatting. No login necessary?

              edit: this post wouldn't go through on the first attempt as I got a message it got flagged as spam by akismet. It went through the second attempt without changing anything. ODD.

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              • humptyH humpty

                @timconsidine you're looking for IRC-ish style chats where you just visit a site, enter a username, and start chatting. No login necessary?

                edit: this post wouldn't go through on the first attempt as I got a message it got flagged as spam by akismet. It went through the second attempt without changing anything. ODD.

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                mononym
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                #20

                @humpty That use case would be Campfire (https://forum.cloudron.io/post/112511) I guess.

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                • humptyH humpty

                  @timconsidine you're looking for IRC-ish style chats where you just visit a site, enter a username, and start chatting. No login necessary?

                  edit: this post wouldn't go through on the first attempt as I got a message it got flagged as spam by akismet. It went through the second attempt without changing anything. ODD.

                  timconsidineT
                  timconsidineT
                  timconsidine
                  App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                  wrote last edited by
                  #21

                  @humpty initially registration was intended (just users not on cloudron instance)
                  But i guess instant use has some advantages for adoption.

                  It's not a defined use case.
                  Even maybe discourse could work - investigating.

                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                  • M mononym

                    @humpty That use case would be Campfire (https://forum.cloudron.io/post/112511) I guess.

                    timconsidineT
                    timconsidineT
                    timconsidine
                    App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
                    wrote last edited by
                    #22

                    @mononym I do not recall seeing that so will take a look

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      @humpty initially registration was intended (just users not on cloudron instance)
                      But i guess instant use has some advantages for adoption.

                      It's not a defined use case.
                      Even maybe discourse could work - investigating.

                      jdaviescoatesJ
                      jdaviescoatesJ
                      jdaviescoates
                      Super Fan
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                      #23

                      @timconsidine said:

                      discourse

                      Also has chat these days. I think possibly even powered by Matrix.

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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