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Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld

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  • girishG Offline
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    @nebulon Maybe we can remove the version from the footer and move it into Updates section? This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

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    • girishG girish

      @nebulon Maybe we can remove the version from the footer and move it into Updates section? This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

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      @girish Exactly. ๐Ÿ™‚

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        Alright. Thanks for the input here. I have removed the version from the footer and we now show it in the update section of the dashboard.

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          https://my.domain.tld/api/v1/cloudron/status
          is the quickest way to a Cloudron's version number --- and public for all!

          Mine is in a pinned Firefox tab.

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          • nebulonN nebulon

            Alright. Thanks for the input here. I have removed the version from the footer and we now show it in the update section of the dashboard.

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            #10

            @nebulon said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

            Alright. Thanks for the input here. I have removed the version from the footer and we now show it in the update section of the dashboard.

            I liked it in the footer and want it back! ๐Ÿ™

            As does @robi, see https://forum.cloudron.io/post/15510

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • girishG girish

              @nebulon Maybe we can remove the version from the footer and move it into Updates section? This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

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              @girish said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

              This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

              And I cannot see what harm them knowing it would do?

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @girish said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

                And I cannot see what harm them knowing it would do?

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                @jdaviescoates I gotta be honest, I donโ€™t know why it NEEDS to be in the footer. While I didnโ€™t care it was there, I also donโ€™t care that itโ€™s been moved. Lol. I wonder if this is just one of those changes that isnโ€™t liked at first but we come to see it as making sense / understand the design choice in the future. Most software keeps the versions hidden and viewable only by admins, so this to me makes logical sense as far as design goes.

                --
                Dustin Dauncey
                www.d19.ca

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                • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                  @jdaviescoates I gotta be honest, I donโ€™t know why it NEEDS to be in the footer. While I didnโ€™t care it was there, I also donโ€™t care that itโ€™s been moved. Lol. I wonder if this is just one of those changes that isnโ€™t liked at first but we come to see it as making sense / understand the design choice in the future. Most software keeps the versions hidden and viewable only by admins, so this to me makes logical sense as far as design goes.

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                  @d19dotca I wouldn't say it NEEDS to be there either. I just liked it being there as a really quick and easy way to see what version I'm running. And I don't really get why it was removed without anyone asking for it to be removed (indeed, it was seemingly paradoxically removed because someone wanted to be able to easily see it, but hadn't even noticed it was there! ๐Ÿ˜› )

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                    For me it doesn't need to be in the footer, I prefer to have only the custom footer down there.

                    Version is only interesting for admins, the less clutter the better. (At the same time, I could totally live with it down there. ๐Ÿ˜€ )

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                    • ruihildtR ruihildt

                      4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                      For me it doesn't need to be in the footer, I prefer to have only the custom footer down there.

                      Version is only interesting for admins, the less clutter the better. (At the same time, I could totally live with it down there. ๐Ÿ˜€ )

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                      @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                      4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                      Heh, fair point.

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                        4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                        Heh, fair point.

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                        @jdaviescoates said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                        @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                        4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                        Heh, fair point.

                        But, I still like my preferred solution here:
                        https://forum.cloudron.io/post/15541

                        Would keep everyone happy, no? ๐Ÿ™‚ (and also has 4 upvotes ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          We looked into many of the apps we have and most don't show the version in the footer. I guess the expectation is to find it somewhere else. So, we just moved it. We do keep getting repeated emails that they don't know what version the Cloudron is since they don't look into the footer (it's natural for me, but I guess it's not for others).

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                          • girishG girish

                            We looked into many of the apps we have and most don't show the version in the footer. I guess the expectation is to find it somewhere else. So, we just moved it. We do keep getting repeated emails that they don't know what version the Cloudron is since they don't look into the footer (it's natural for me, but I guess it's not for others).

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                            jdaviescoates
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @girish just make having it in the footer an option under branding?

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              @girish just make having it in the footer an option under branding?

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              @jdaviescoates Currently, the footer is just a free flowing markdown. I guess we have to template it to have something like {{version}} or %version% or something. Have to see how easy/hard this is.

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                              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                @girish just make having it in the footer an option under branding?

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                                girish
                                Staff
                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @jdaviescoates I noticed now that we have 2020 hardcoed as the default footer. So we probably want to have some templating since 2021 is almost here...

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                                • girishG girish

                                  @jdaviescoates I noticed now that we have 2020 hardcoed as the default footer. So we probably want to have some templating since 2021 is almost here...

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                                  jdaviescoates
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @girish I've got custom markdown in mine (which displays in the centre at the bottom). There is no 2020 to be seen. But I still miss having the version over in the right ๐Ÿ™‚

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @girish I've got custom markdown in mine (which displays in the centre at the bottom). There is no 2020 to be seen. But I still miss having the version over in the right ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    girish
                                    Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jdaviescoates what I meant is that we need templating for the default footer, so will look into adding version at that point.

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                                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                      @jdaviescoates said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                      @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                      4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                                      Heh, fair point.

                                      But, I still like my preferred solution here:
                                      https://forum.cloudron.io/post/15541

                                      Would keep everyone happy, no? ๐Ÿ™‚ (and also has 4 upvotes ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

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                                      @jdaviescoates said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                      But, I still like my preferred solution here:
                                      https://forum.cloudron.io/post/15541
                                      Would keep everyone happy, no? (and also has 4 upvotes )

                                      Five now, we already have a "Footer" section to change the footer text, a checkbox for "Add version number" isn't too crazy I think for those of us that liked it (I did personally).

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