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Minio backup fails for no reason

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    @thibaud Do you have a guesstimate of what is the size of that file? Also, in the backup configuration, do you minio or s3 compatible as the provider? Can you also post a screenshot of Backups -> configure -> advanced settings (just the bottom part of the advanced settings screenshot).

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      @girish I have no idea. I understand the backup fails when it comes to Nextcloud. So basically, the file is large.

      Backup conf is on Minio.

      bce3e0d3-9a6b-4162-bab0-3200417d7bf2-image.png

      Are those settings new ? I am pretty sure I have never seen them. I guess they have something to do with my problem...

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        @thibaud said in Minio backup fails for no reason:

        So basically, the file is large

        You can check this from the graphs maybe as to how much the app consumes? It's under System view.

        Are those settings new ?

        Yes, new in 5.4 and 5.5

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          @girish

          You can check this from the graphs maybe as to how much the app consumes? It's under System view.

          Yes. As expected its huge as it is a Nextcloud. The entire app consumes 36 GB.

          Yes, new in 5.4 and 5.5

          And I think my problem appeared after 5.4 update. So basically I guess I need to increase memory limit? Up to... how much?

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            @girish

            You can check this from the graphs maybe as to how much the app consumes? It's under System view.

            Yes. As expected its huge as it is a Nextcloud. The entire app consumes 36 GB.

            Yes, new in 5.4 and 5.5

            And I think my problem appeared after 5.4 update. So basically I guess I need to increase memory limit? Up to... how much?

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            @thibaud until it works 😕

            Conscious tech

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              @girish

              You can check this from the graphs maybe as to how much the app consumes? It's under System view.

              Yes. As expected its huge as it is a Nextcloud. The entire app consumes 36 GB.

              Yes, new in 5.4 and 5.5

              And I think my problem appeared after 5.4 update. So basically I guess I need to increase memory limit? Up to... how much?

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              @thibaud Yes, I would start with say 1GB or so and see if it works. Note that this memory is just the "max" and also only for the duration of the backup itself.

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                Thank you all.

                @girish I increased the parameters step by step and tried to backup for each (until the max i.e. 16 go). I still have the same error message. Any help?

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                  Thank you all.

                  @girish I increased the parameters step by step and tried to backup for each (until the max i.e. 16 go). I still have the same error message. Any help?

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                  @thibaud Are you able to mail the entire backup log to support@cloudron.io ? Let's see if it's something obvious from the logs.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @thibaud Are you able to mail the entire backup log to support@cloudron.io ? Let's see if it's something obvious from the logs.

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                    @girish Done!

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                      @girish Done!

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                      @thibaud Thanks. It seems multi-part copies are failing altogether. As in, even the first part is failing. I thought it was failing much later.

                      Retrying (1) multipart copy of crsav_/snapshot/app_f0770611-2970-4e86-9047-0260e0297b79.tar.gz.enc. Error: XMLParserError: Unexpected close tag\nLine: 5\nColumn: 7\nChar: > 405 (
                      

                      Let me quickly test this and see if it's easy to reproduce.

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                        @thibaud Mmm, I cannot reproduce this. I tried to backup and it succeeded over ~40 parts (https://paste.cloudron.io/ihulamulow.apache). So, to take a step back, it failed in "rename" . Is there something special about the filesystem where minio is located? Is it ext4? What is the underlying filesytem of Cloudron itself?

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                          @thibaud Mmm, I cannot reproduce this. I tried to backup and it succeeded over ~40 parts (https://paste.cloudron.io/ihulamulow.apache). So, to take a step back, it failed in "rename" . Is there something special about the filesystem where minio is located? Is it ext4? What is the underlying filesytem of Cloudron itself?

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                          @girish

                          My Minio is self-hosted in a Docker on a Synology NAS which underlying filesystem is proprietary (btfrs). I already checked if there are any known issue reported with Minio. I will double check.

                          My Cloudron is hosted on Ubuntu / ext4.

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                            @girish

                            My Minio is self-hosted in a Docker on a Synology NAS which underlying filesystem is proprietary (btfrs). I already checked if there are any known issue reported with Minio. I will double check.

                            My Cloudron is hosted on Ubuntu / ext4.

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                            @thibaud said in Minio backup fails for no reason:

                            Minio is self-hosted in a Docker on a Synology NAS which underlying filesystem is proprietary (btfrs)

                            I have exactly the same situation on two Cloudrons to Minio's on two NAS's, only difference is that my backups are rsync and not tar. I experience no single issue and with Watchtower in Docker Minio is automatically updated to the latest version within 24 hours.

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                              @thibaud said in Minio backup fails for no reason:

                              Minio is self-hosted in a Docker on a Synology NAS which underlying filesystem is proprietary (btfrs)

                              I have exactly the same situation on two Cloudrons to Minio's on two NAS's, only difference is that my backups are rsync and not tar. I experience no single issue and with Watchtower in Docker Minio is automatically updated to the latest version within 24 hours.

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                              @imc67 said in Minio backup fails for no reason:

                              my backups are rsync and not tar

                              Thanks for the tip. I switched to rsync and I was full of hope. Unfortunately it also fails.

                              @girish I send you Minio full log by mail.

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                                @imc67 said in Minio backup fails for no reason:

                                my backups are rsync and not tar

                                Thanks for the tip. I switched to rsync and I was full of hope. Unfortunately it also fails.

                                @girish I send you Minio full log by mail.

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                                @thibaud I replied to you on support@ but the issue is that there is some long file name. The current rsync+encryption backup has some file name length limitation - https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#encryption . There is a feature request at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3057/consider-improvements-to-the-backup-experience-to-support-long-filenames-directory-names .

                                Run the following command in /home/yellowtent/appsdata to find the large filenames:

                                find . -type f -printf "%f\n" | awk '{ print length(), $0 | "sort -rn" }' | less
                                
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