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[BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    Possible related to this?

    SMB1 disabled by default: can still be enabled via a /etc/samba/smb.conf config change;

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Samba_4.11

    More info here:
    https://www.samba.org/samba/history/samba-4.11.0.html

    Found via https://askubuntu.com/questions/1229929/cant-acces-nas-anymore-after-upgrading-to-20-04

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    @jdaviescoates said in My CIFS automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

    Possible related to this?

    thank for your reach, I'll definitely give a try to this and come back soon.

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      @jdaviescoates I just look at it
      and on Cloudron Samba server is not installed
      so nothing to configure in /etc/samba/* which actually don't even exist.

      WEBDAV

      I have the same behavior with webdav
      on reboot I have to login and do mount -a

      here the option for my davfs in /etc/fstab: rw,_netdev,uid=yellowtent,gid=yellowtent,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770 0 0
      I also tried with auto and defaults

      few people suggest to use rc.local

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        #17

        I just got an idea
        @nebulon
        it is possible than cloudron mount the volumes before my automount so then the target directory of my automount is not empty ?

        Also how could I destroy thoses volumes the GUI don't make it happen ?
        3d381110-ff30-443a-87bf-7dd22fc3d4c9-image.png

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        • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

          I just got an idea
          @nebulon
          it is possible than cloudron mount the volumes before my automount so then the target directory of my automount is not empty ?

          Also how could I destroy thoses volumes the GUI don't make it happen ?
          3d381110-ff30-443a-87bf-7dd22fc3d4c9-image.png

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          @jodumont said in My CIFS automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

          it is possible than cloudron mount the volumes before my automount so then the target directory of my automount is not empty ?

          nope, even without any volumes configured in Cloudron
          CIFS and WEBDAV won't mount automatically 😞

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            #19

            @nebulon and @girish

            I just copy the config (/etc/fstab and /etc/davfs2/secret) to my Ubuntu 20.04LTS Desktop
            and my webdav mount automatically on the reboot.

            So it seams to be a bug on the cloudron side.

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              Cloudron itself does not handle any mount points as such. So this looks like this is some issue with 20.04 server then. Note that the desktop flavor has a lot more things installed usually, which may or may not trigger automounting correctly.

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              • nebulonN nebulon

                Cloudron itself does not handle any mount points as such. So this looks like this is some issue with 20.04 server then. Note that the desktop flavor has a lot more things installed usually, which may or may not trigger automounting correctly.

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                @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                Cloudron itself does not handle any mount points as such. So this looks like this is some issue with 20.04 server then. Note that the desktop flavor has a lot more things installed usually, which may or may not trigger automounting correctly.

                I have no doubt of the quality of coding from the Cloudron Team
                but I just boot an ubuntu 20.04 LTS at Hetzner
                did

                apt update
                apt install -y davfs2
                mkdir /mnt/storagebox
                

                than cut and past my 2 lines
                1 from /etc/fstab
                1 for /etc/davfs2/secret

                reboot and it work

                so yes Ubuntu Desktop have probably more fuse than server but now the only difference is Cloudron.

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                • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                  @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                  Cloudron itself does not handle any mount points as such. So this looks like this is some issue with 20.04 server then. Note that the desktop flavor has a lot more things installed usually, which may or may not trigger automounting correctly.

                  I have no doubt of the quality of coding from the Cloudron Team
                  but I just boot an ubuntu 20.04 LTS at Hetzner
                  did

                  apt update
                  apt install -y davfs2
                  mkdir /mnt/storagebox
                  

                  than cut and past my 2 lines
                  1 from /etc/fstab
                  1 for /etc/davfs2/secret

                  reboot and it work

                  so yes Ubuntu Desktop have probably more fuse than server but now the only difference is Cloudron.

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                  thanks for testing, so then probably one of the dependencies we install, somehow changes either the init order or even disables some bits there. Looks like we have to debug this further then on fresh installations to get some more information what systemd does differently in both scenarios.

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    thanks for testing, so then probably one of the dependencies we install, somehow changes either the init order or even disables some bits there. Looks like we have to debug this further then on fresh installations to get some more information what systemd does differently in both scenarios.

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                    @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                    Looks like we have to debug this further then on fresh installations to get some more information what systemd does differently in both scenarios.

                    I'll run an fresh install of Cloudron than install davfs2 just to be sure

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                    • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                      @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                      Looks like we have to debug this further then on fresh installations to get some more information what systemd does differently in both scenarios.

                      I'll run an fresh install of Cloudron than install davfs2 just to be sure

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                      @jodumont said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                      I'll run an fresh install of Cloudron than install davfs2 just to be sure

                      so boot up a new instance Ubuntu 20.04 LTS @Hetzner
                      ran

                      wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
                      chmod +x ./cloudron-setup
                      ./cloudron-setup
                      

                      reboot than install davfs2 apt install -y davfs2
                      and configure /etc/fstab and /etc/davfs2/secrets
                      reboot

                      it don't mount automatically
                      but mount without issue with mount -a

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                      • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                        @jodumont said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                        I'll run an fresh install of Cloudron than install davfs2 just to be sure

                        so boot up a new instance Ubuntu 20.04 LTS @Hetzner
                        ran

                        wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
                        chmod +x ./cloudron-setup
                        ./cloudron-setup
                        

                        reboot than install davfs2 apt install -y davfs2
                        and configure /etc/fstab and /etc/davfs2/secrets
                        reboot

                        it don't mount automatically
                        but mount without issue with mount -a

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                        @jodumont I was able to reproduce this now also outside of hetzner on 20.04...not yet sure why and what causes the difference

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                          wrote on last edited by nebulon
                          #26

                          To give some update, this is DNS related and how the init sequence works on 20.04 now.
                          Problem is at the point when systemd decides to attempt to mount the remote filesystems, unbound, the dns resolver is not yet started. This means the remote fs cannot be mounted.

                          There are currently two workarounds:

                          1. Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP
                          2. add x-systemd.automount as an additional argument for the mountpoint in the fstab entry

                          Ideally we find a better flow by tweaking some of the init order in the future.

                          For now I've added that option requirement at https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#cifs

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            To give some update, this is DNS related and how the init sequence works on 20.04 now.
                            Problem is at the point when systemd decides to attempt to mount the remote filesystems, unbound, the dns resolver is not yet started. This means the remote fs cannot be mounted.

                            There are currently two workarounds:

                            1. Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP
                            2. add x-systemd.automount as an additional argument for the mountpoint in the fstab entry

                            Ideally we find a better flow by tweaking some of the init order in the future.

                            For now I've added that option requirement at https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#cifs

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                            @nebulon what about a retry after the initial failure after unbound loads?

                            maybe add a mount -a at the end of the unbound script?

                            Conscious tech

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                            • nebulonN nebulon

                              To give some update, this is DNS related and how the init sequence works on 20.04 now.
                              Problem is at the point when systemd decides to attempt to mount the remote filesystems, unbound, the dns resolver is not yet started. This means the remote fs cannot be mounted.

                              There are currently two workarounds:

                              1. Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP
                              2. add x-systemd.automount as an additional argument for the mountpoint in the fstab entry

                              Ideally we find a better flow by tweaking some of the init order in the future.

                              For now I've added that option requirement at https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#cifs

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                              @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                              Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP

                              I'm old school, I prefer IP 🙂
                              So it is probably related to unbound-resolvconf no ?:

                              Also on my side, by default my Hetzner NAS return me an IPv6, I didn't even know my Cloudron box as an IPv6 😛

                              it is the same on your side ?

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                                @nebulon what about a retry after the initial failure after unbound loads?

                                maybe add a mount -a at the end of the unbound script?

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                                @robi said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                @nebulon what about a retry after the initial failure after unbound loads?
                                maybe add a mount -a at the end of the unbound script?

                                How disabling the IPv6 in Cloudron

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                                • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                                  @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                  Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP

                                  I'm old school, I prefer IP 🙂
                                  So it is probably related to unbound-resolvconf no ?:

                                  Also on my side, by default my Hetzner NAS return me an IPv6, I didn't even know my Cloudron box as an IPv6 😛

                                  it is the same on your side ?

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                                  @jodumont said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                  So it is probably related to unbound-resolvconf no ?:

                                  Issue is related to Cloudron. We have an internal DNS server (unbound) and it's configured in such a way that it has to start after docker (very tricky to make it start before docker). Unfortunately, because the DNS starts only after docker, it's a bit too late for services like network mounts which start before them. Which is why changing the mount from name based to IP makes it all work.

                                  I guess the fix is to change the way DNS server starts up but this is quite a complex task.

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                                  • nebulonN nebulon

                                    To give some update, this is DNS related and how the init sequence works on 20.04 now.
                                    Problem is at the point when systemd decides to attempt to mount the remote filesystems, unbound, the dns resolver is not yet started. This means the remote fs cannot be mounted.

                                    There are currently two workarounds:

                                    1. Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP
                                    2. add x-systemd.automount as an additional argument for the mountpoint in the fstab entry

                                    Ideally we find a better flow by tweaking some of the init order in the future.

                                    For now I've added that option requirement at https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#cifs

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                                    @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                    Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP

                                    • with IPv6 I have this error: /sbin/mount.davfs: invalid URL
                                    • with IPv4 I have this error: /sbin/mount.davfs: Mounting failed. 301 Moved Permanently
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                                    • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                                      @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                      Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP

                                      • with IPv6 I have this error: /sbin/mount.davfs: invalid URL
                                      • with IPv4 I have this error: /sbin/mount.davfs: Mounting failed. 301 Moved Permanently
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                                      @jodumont Oh.. maybe davfs requires the hostname because of vhost based configs! Can you try adding x-systemd.automount into the fstab entry instead?

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                                      • nebulonN nebulon

                                        To give some update, this is DNS related and how the init sequence works on 20.04 now.
                                        Problem is at the point when systemd decides to attempt to mount the remote filesystems, unbound, the dns resolver is not yet started. This means the remote fs cannot be mounted.

                                        There are currently two workarounds:

                                        1. Instead of using the DNS name in the fstab entry, just use the IP
                                        2. add x-systemd.automount as an additional argument for the mountpoint in the fstab entry

                                        Ideally we find a better flow by tweaking some of the init order in the future.

                                        For now I've added that option requirement at https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#cifs

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                                        @nebulon said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                        add x-systemd.automount as an additional argument for the mountpoint in the fstab entry

                                        🎺 adding x-systemd.automount, in /etc/fstab after _netdev, work well

                                        Thanks for all of you (but specially @nebulon); without your help, I would probably be crying in a corner

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @jodumont Oh.. maybe davfs requires the hostname because of vhost based configs! Can you try adding x-systemd.automount into the fstab entry instead?

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                                          #34

                                          @girish said in [BUG] Automount fail on reboot with Ubuntu 20.04:

                                          @jodumont Oh.. maybe davfs requires the hostname because of vhost based configs! Can you try adding x-systemd.automount into the fstab entry instead?

                                          it worked for one or two reboot, than I started adding Volumes in my Cloudron (not really sure if it related) and I noticed it stop.

                                          • not on Cloudron, on my machine (but also Ubuntu 20.04LTS) it work well if I add user,noauto than mount it as a user.
                                          • on proxmox (Debian 10) it work well with x-system-d.automount

                                          Now CIFS or DAVFS2 with the option x-systemd.automount and even after I deleted all my Volumes in Cloudron WebUI have to same behavior (I need to login and do a mount -a)

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