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  • S subtlecourage

    Out of curiosity, did you get this from Michael Bazzell?

    https://inteltechniques.com/voip.linphone.html
    https://inteltechniques.com/sms.html

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    @subtlecourage

    I should click on your links first

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      Cool, would be neat to hook it up to Google Voice as currently there doesn't appear to be any "pleasant" clients after they ripped Hangouts away.

      Conscious tech

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      • S subtlecourage

        Out of curiosity, did you get this from Michael Bazzell?

        https://inteltechniques.com/voip.linphone.html
        https://inteltechniques.com/sms.html

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        timconsidine
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        @subtlecourage Yes !

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          @subtlecourage

          I should click on your links first

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          @subtlecourage 😊

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          • robiR robi

            Cool, would be neat to hook it up to Google Voice as currently there doesn't appear to be any "pleasant" clients after they ripped Hangouts away.

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            @robi said in SMS desktop app:

            Cool, would be neat to hook it up to Google Voice as currently there doesn't appear to be any "pleasant" clients after they ripped Hangouts away.

            I guess.
            Bazzell (instigator of the project) likes GoogleVoice but I am trying to de-google as much as possible.

            I don't know what the developer's roadmap is.
            You could ask on his github
            He has this roadmap link : https://github.com/0perationPrivacy/VoIP/projects/2

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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              @robi said in SMS desktop app:

              Cool, would be neat to hook it up to Google Voice as currently there doesn't appear to be any "pleasant" clients after they ripped Hangouts away.

              I guess.
              Bazzell (instigator of the project) likes GoogleVoice but I am trying to de-google as much as possible.

              I don't know what the developer's roadmap is.
              You could ask on his github
              He has this roadmap link : https://github.com/0perationPrivacy/VoIP/projects/2

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              @timconsidine I saw it.. and some of the issue comments.

              Since it's an API thing, it should be up to the user to choose GV or other services IMO.

              Conscious tech

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                @timconsidine I saw it.. and some of the issue comments.

                Since it's an API thing, it should be up to the user to choose GV or other services IMO.

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                @robi Yes, he may well get to it, as Michael uses GVoice and is the main driver for features at this stage.

                The app also works with the chosen platform to configure it.
                For Telnyx and Twilio, the app will create a messaging profile and configure the platform auto-magically to link the number.
                So the app may need extending to do the same for Google Voice .... if that is possible.

                Having said that, you may well be able to configure Google Voice manually with the required webhook for where the app is deployed e.g. https://sms.domain.tld/api/setting/receive-sms/telnyx

                Apologies I don't know anything really about Google Voice or what it supports. I read Google is turning off forwarding of SMS to email, which a lot of people relied on previously.

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  @robi Yes, he may well get to it, as Michael uses GVoice and is the main driver for features at this stage.

                  The app also works with the chosen platform to configure it.
                  For Telnyx and Twilio, the app will create a messaging profile and configure the platform auto-magically to link the number.
                  So the app may need extending to do the same for Google Voice .... if that is possible.

                  Having said that, you may well be able to configure Google Voice manually with the required webhook for where the app is deployed e.g. https://sms.domain.tld/api/setting/receive-sms/telnyx

                  Apologies I don't know anything really about Google Voice or what it supports. I read Google is turning off forwarding of SMS to email, which a lot of people relied on previously.

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                  @timconsidine Thanks for that, while I don't have it installed, I can't try it and I'd like to see it at least documented somewhere, even if as a hack.

                  Conscious tech

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                  • robiR robi

                    @timconsidine Thanks for that, while I don't have it installed, I can't try it and I'd like to see it at least documented somewhere, even if as a hack.

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                    @robi understood
                    I got a message that they will incorporate my HOW-TO in their official docs.

                    There are couple screenshots on one of their pages.
                    I can make some others.
                    But maybe you need more.

                    It's definitely still beta, but it's working without frills like decent address book, group lists etc. But I think they are coming.

                    I also noticed that someone has posted a message requesting Dockerfile for Cloudron install !

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      @robi understood
                      I got a message that they will incorporate my HOW-TO in their official docs.

                      There are couple screenshots on one of their pages.
                      I can make some others.
                      But maybe you need more.

                      It's definitely still beta, but it's working without frills like decent address book, group lists etc. But I think they are coming.

                      I also noticed that someone has posted a message requesting Dockerfile for Cloudron install !

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                      subtlecourage
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                      @timconsidine
                      Little by little!

                      I am so stoked!

                      Would you consider your version prod ready?

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                      • S subtlecourage

                        @timconsidine
                        Little by little!

                        I am so stoked!

                        Would you consider your version prod ready?

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                        @subtlecourage hmmm, good question
                        Depends on how consider production ready.

                        Yes, it's working ! To send out SMS and receive inbound.

                        But no, because the app is still officially beta, and there are features not yet implemented (voice but I don't need that) and contacts management, export of SMS

                        Overall I think it's worth trying out, with the understanding that it is still evolving.

                        EDIT : if you follow the LXC installation route, it's easy to try it out. Just remove the container if you feel it's not ready yet. Telnyx numbers are month-by-month subscription so no long-term commitment.

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                          privsec
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                          Wow, what an awesome concept, though looks a bit complicated setup. Do you run into any errors while using?

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                            Wow, what an awesome concept, though looks a bit complicated setup. Do you run into any errors while using?

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                            @privsec : it's not complicated, just multiple steps

                            If you want to actually understand, I put the references to tutorials with explanation.
                            but i abstracted the steps into a 'monkey see, monkey do' process
                            btw, I am the monkey referred to !

                            sorry for one hand typing

                            if you follow the steps you should be ok, but ler me know if anything needs clarifying

                            no, i don't get any errors using it

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                              @privsec : it's not complicated, just multiple steps

                              If you want to actually understand, I put the references to tutorials with explanation.
                              but i abstracted the steps into a 'monkey see, monkey do' process
                              btw, I am the monkey referred to !

                              sorry for one hand typing

                              if you follow the steps you should be ok, but ler me know if anything needs clarifying

                              no, i don't get any errors using it

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                              @timconsidine Hahaha, you are hilarious!

                              For LXC, can that be ran simultaneously on a cloudron server?

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                                @timconsidine Hahaha, you are hilarious!

                                For LXC, can that be ran simultaneously on a cloudron server?

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                                @privsec

                                For LXC, can that be ran simultaneously on a cloudron server?

                                well in theory I guess it could as LXC containers are separate from what else is going on in the VPS

                                But I have a personal rule not to touch the Cloudron server other than through the Cloudron dashboard and the Cloudron CLI for custom apps. I don't log in to the VPS and don't do any maintenance on it. I just leave it all to Cloudron.

                                I use another VPS from SSDNODES for 'experiments' and 'self-self-hosted' apps.

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                                  @privsec

                                  For LXC, can that be ran simultaneously on a cloudron server?

                                  well in theory I guess it could as LXC containers are separate from what else is going on in the VPS

                                  But I have a personal rule not to touch the Cloudron server other than through the Cloudron dashboard and the Cloudron CLI for custom apps. I don't log in to the VPS and don't do any maintenance on it. I just leave it all to Cloudron.

                                  I use another VPS from SSDNODES for 'experiments' and 'self-self-hosted' apps.

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                                  sorry to revive this conversation, @privsec and @timconsidine, but how powerful of a server do you need?

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                                  • S subtlecourage

                                    sorry to revive this conversation, @privsec and @timconsidine, but how powerful of a server do you need?

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                                    @subtlecourage I don't think the project states minimum requirements.
                                    it's not a doing a lot, just a small mongodb and some api polling
                                    so I would guess a modest one
                                    nor more than 8gb ram and probably 4gb ram would be enough
                                    although that depends on what else is running on that VPS (remembering this app is in a container)

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                                      @subtlecourage I don't think the project states minimum requirements.
                                      it's not a doing a lot, just a small mongodb and some api polling
                                      so I would guess a modest one
                                      nor more than 8gb ram and probably 4gb ram would be enough
                                      although that depends on what else is running on that VPS (remembering this app is in a container)

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                                      @timconsidine thanks for the fast reply.

                                      Ok! Not a beefy one. I’m considering setting up these up for customers on an individual basis, and it seems a simple low tier server would be all that’s needed to run these.

                                      Probably a server with 20gb ram for multi number/family use cases would be appropriate.

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                                      • S subtlecourage

                                        @timconsidine thanks for the fast reply.

                                        Ok! Not a beefy one. I’m considering setting up these up for customers on an individual basis, and it seems a simple low tier server would be all that’s needed to run these.

                                        Probably a server with 20gb ram for multi number/family use cases would be appropriate.

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                                        privsec
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                                        @subtlecourage that’s a neat idea, how would you offer support for that?

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                                        • S subtlecourage

                                          sorry to revive this conversation, @privsec and @timconsidine, but how powerful of a server do you need?

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                                          @subtlecourage here is the htop from the container

                                          Screenshot 2021-11-02 at 13.05.45.png
                                          Not much going on

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