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  • P privsec

    @jdaviescoates I have switched to idrive just now and doing a backup. My jellyfin has all the media storage within the app container (discovered this as the backup for jelly was taking forever) I thought it was in a volume.

    Now I will be looking at migrating this data to a volume.

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    @privsec said in Updates for apps sorted by size:

    My jellyfin has all the media storage within the app container (discovered this as the backup for jelly was taking forever) I thought it was in a volume.

    Sounds like you've likely found the main culprit!

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      @jdaviescoates I have switched to idrive just now and doing a backup. My jellyfin has all the media storage within the app container (discovered this as the backup for jelly was taking forever) I thought it was in a volume.

      Now I will be looking at migrating this data to a volume.

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      @privsec Good stuff, yes, Wasabi is storing duplicates of backups for 90 days after each backup, hence you are multiplying your storage use with them, even if you have backups being purged, they are showing that as still stored for another 90 days thereafter. Bit of their bullshit really, as they cannot recover deleted files, even a minute after.

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        @privsec Good stuff, yes, Wasabi is storing duplicates of backups for 90 days after each backup, hence you are multiplying your storage use with them, even if you have backups being purged, they are showing that as still stored for another 90 days thereafter. Bit of their bullshit really, as they cannot recover deleted files, even a minute after.

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        @marcusquinn and they charge for it?

        Conscious tech

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          @marcusquinn and they charge for it?

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          @robi Yeah. I can't recall any other S3 services doing this, but maybe they got the idea from somewhere, or maybe it's just their way of making their headline pricing appear more competitive and trying to protect revenue volatility. If it were me, I really don't think this could make as much difference to their bottom-lines as actual customer satisfaction and goodwill, because for all they might gain, I expect they lose as much in bitterness and loss of recommendation-level happiness.

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            @robi Yeah. I can't recall any other S3 services doing this, but maybe they got the idea from somewhere, or maybe it's just their way of making their headline pricing appear more competitive and trying to protect revenue volatility. If it were me, I really don't think this could make as much difference to their bottom-lines as actual customer satisfaction and goodwill, because for all they might gain, I expect they lose as much in bitterness and loss of recommendation-level happiness.

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            @marcusquinn their support should be able to tell you knowing how the back end works. Some systems are highly optimized for injest, but less for garbage collection, which can be deferred since it causes injest disruption. If they do this at 90day intervals, that's a pretty poor architectural set of choices.

            If it's not usable, it should not be charged or passed on to the customer. They'd be smarter to hide it with larger customers where it matters less than smaller ones where it's very obvious. 🤷

            Conscious tech

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              Paid $20 for 5TB for a year with idrive.com/e2 sign-up offer.

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              @marcusquinn said in Updates for apps sorted by size:

              Paid $20 for 5TB for a year with idrive.com/e2 sign-up offer.

              I would like to try it. What settings do I have to appl to Cloudron backup settings to get it up and running?

              7E59A254-67AE-4DFA-A6AD-08E1F1035750.png

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                @marcusquinn said in Updates for apps sorted by size:

                Paid $20 for 5TB for a year with idrive.com/e2 sign-up offer.

                I would like to try it. What settings do I have to appl to Cloudron backup settings to get it up and running?

                7E59A254-67AE-4DFA-A6AD-08E1F1035750.png

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                @jayonrails The generic "S3 API Compatible v4" is what's used for anything not in that list.

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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  @jayonrails The generic "S3 API Compatible v4" is what's used for anything not in that list.

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                  @marcusquinn thanks a lot, I will try it!

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    @jayonrails The generic "S3 API Compatible v4" is what's used for anything not in that list.

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                    @marcusquinn works perfectly for me. Thanks for your tips!

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                    • J jayonrails

                      @marcusquinn works perfectly for me. Thanks for your tips!

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                      @jayonrails Cool. I recommend sticking to Tarball. Faster and takes up less space overall.

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