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  • d19dotcaD d19dotca

    I see 7.5.0 is out now, I just got the notification. I’ll look to update tonight. I was curious… I see spam learning being a topic in 7.5 but it wasn’t in the release notes of 7.5.0 that I saw. Is that coming later in another patch release or was that indeed addressed in 7.5.0?

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    @d19dotca most of the features are not done. Only the mail privacy issue, oidc fixes ,redis 7 upgrade is done . We pushed this early since redis and oidc updates were blocking many apps.

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      I wonder - how good is 7.5 for production use? I can see that some of my instances are not updated automatically and I guess it's because it's not considered to be good for all use cases?

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        7.5.0 is primarily out for people blocked on discourse and chatwoot. I would wait for a couple of weeks for 7.5.1 which will have many of the features implemented.

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        • girishG girish

          7.5.0 is primarily out for people blocked on discourse and chatwoot. I would wait for a couple of weeks for 7.5.1 which will have many of the features implemented.

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          @girish thank you! If I don't use discource & chatwoot, everything else is expected to be fine? Or not really?

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          • girishG girish

            For 7.5, we just want to focus on fixing some long standing issues instead of adding new features. Also, Cloudron 7.4 added OIDC support, so we are also working on moving apps from LDAP to OIDC slowly (as long as the migration works seamlessly).

            These are fairly critical and we haven't paid attention to them in a while:

            • (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search
            • (mail) Investigate why Spam learning/filtering sometimes does not work effectively.
            • (mail) SPF regression adding an extra header and leaking client IP.
            • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
            • Backup/restore progress
            • SSHFS/CIFS import is not working - 1 and 2
            • Add optional flag for turn addon.
            • Add check to indicate that Cloudron 7.6 will not support servers without AVX. This is required for MongoDB 6.0
            • Upgrade Redis to 7 . This is required for Discourse
            • Improve app repair workflow
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            #39

            @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

            Add optional flag for turn addon.

            This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

            6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

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            • girishG girish

              For 7.5, we just want to focus on fixing some long standing issues instead of adding new features. Also, Cloudron 7.4 added OIDC support, so we are also working on moving apps from LDAP to OIDC slowly (as long as the migration works seamlessly).

              These are fairly critical and we haven't paid attention to them in a while:

              • (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search
              • (mail) Investigate why Spam learning/filtering sometimes does not work effectively.
              • (mail) SPF regression adding an extra header and leaking client IP.
              • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
              • Backup/restore progress
              • SSHFS/CIFS import is not working - 1 and 2
              • Add optional flag for turn addon.
              • Add check to indicate that Cloudron 7.6 will not support servers without AVX. This is required for MongoDB 6.0
              • Upgrade Redis to 7 . This is required for Discourse
              • Improve app repair workflow
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              girish
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              #40

              @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

              Add check to indicate that Cloudron 7.6 will not support servers without AVX. This is required for MongoDB 6.0

              This was added a while ago - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/df54ba3a0a7cadc5dff47da50915235a6166f860

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              • girishG girish

                @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                Add optional flag for turn addon.

                This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

                6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

                047778e7-4548-4a3a-a2a6-287dac6523af-image.png

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                eganonoa
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                @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                Add optional flag for turn addon.

                This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

                6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

                047778e7-4548-4a3a-a2a6-287dac6523af-image.png

                The turn option is huge, thank you! I cannot wait to implement it. Is it in the 7.5.0 pre-release?

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                  @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                  @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                  Add optional flag for turn addon.

                  This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

                  6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

                  047778e7-4548-4a3a-a2a6-287dac6523af-image.png

                  The turn option is huge, thank you! I cannot wait to implement it. Is it in the 7.5.0 pre-release?

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                  humptydumpty
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                  @eganonoa I'm on 7.5.0 and don't have those options yet. It must be in 7.5.1 that's coming in the next week or the 7.6 release (no ETA yet).

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                  • girishG girish

                    For 7.5, we just want to focus on fixing some long standing issues instead of adding new features. Also, Cloudron 7.4 added OIDC support, so we are also working on moving apps from LDAP to OIDC slowly (as long as the migration works seamlessly).

                    These are fairly critical and we haven't paid attention to them in a while:

                    • (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search
                    • (mail) Investigate why Spam learning/filtering sometimes does not work effectively.
                    • (mail) SPF regression adding an extra header and leaking client IP.
                    • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                    • Backup/restore progress
                    • SSHFS/CIFS import is not working - 1 and 2
                    • Add optional flag for turn addon.
                    • Add check to indicate that Cloudron 7.6 will not support servers without AVX. This is required for MongoDB 6.0
                    • Upgrade Redis to 7 . This is required for Discourse
                    • Improve app repair workflow
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                    #43

                    @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                    (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search

                    This is implemented now. You can read the blog post on our investigation at https://blog.cloudron.io/email-search-in-mail-clients/ . If you use any other email clients, let me know happy to add it to that blog.

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                      necrevistonnezr
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                      Nice write up!

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                        #45

                        When will 7.5 be considered GA / stable? Been out for a couple of weeks now but still says pre-release.

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                        • swheeler78S swheeler78

                          When will 7.5 be considered GA / stable? Been out for a couple of weeks now but still says pre-release.

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                          @swheeler78 the code went through a major rewrite, so we are giving it more time. Our e2e passed yesterday, we will do a round of manual testing coming week and release 7.5.1 as stable.

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                            So, does this mean that 7.5.1 will replace 7.5 or will I still need to upgrade to 7.5 first? Thanks for everythign in advance.

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                            • swheeler78S swheeler78

                              So, does this mean that 7.5.1 will replace 7.5 or will I still need to upgrade to 7.5 first? Thanks for everythign in advance.

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                              @swheeler78 7.4.3 will upgrade directly to 7.5.1

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                                As an update here, 7.5.1 e2e tests are now running. We should have a release in a day or two.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  For 7.5, we just want to focus on fixing some long standing issues instead of adding new features. Also, Cloudron 7.4 added OIDC support, so we are also working on moving apps from LDAP to OIDC slowly (as long as the migration works seamlessly).

                                  These are fairly critical and we haven't paid attention to them in a while:

                                  • (mail) Virtual all directory in dovecot for search
                                  • (mail) Investigate why Spam learning/filtering sometimes does not work effectively.
                                  • (mail) SPF regression adding an extra header and leaking client IP.
                                  • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                  • Backup/restore progress
                                  • SSHFS/CIFS import is not working - 1 and 2
                                  • Add optional flag for turn addon.
                                  • Add check to indicate that Cloudron 7.6 will not support servers without AVX. This is required for MongoDB 6.0
                                  • Upgrade Redis to 7 . This is required for Discourse
                                  • Improve app repair workflow
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                                  girish
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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                                  SSHFS/CIFS import is not working - 1 and 2

                                  This is now fixed.

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                                    Add optional flag for turn addon.

                                    This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

                                    6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

                                    047778e7-4548-4a3a-a2a6-287dac6523af-image.png

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                                    dylightful
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                                    @girish Can't seem to see the Redis option in 7.5.0 using unmanaged WordPress. Is this coming in a future release?

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                                      @girish Can't seem to see the Redis option in 7.5.0 using unmanaged WordPress. Is this coming in a future release?

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                                      @dylightful yes, 7.5.1 is not yet . It's ready but didn't want to push it over the weekend. So, we will make it available as unstable on Monday.

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @dylightful yes, 7.5.1 is not yet . It's ready but didn't want to push it over the weekend. So, we will make it available as unstable on Monday.

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                                        @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                                        So, we will make it available as unstable on Monday.

                                        Great. I think I was one of these:

                                        @nebulon said in Suggestion for prereleases:

                                        I think we made a mistake with 7.5 where it was pushed out for some Cloudrons unintentionally for auto-updates for a brief moment

                                        I didn't notice anything break. And I see it led to a nice discussion about prelease testing and even naming conventions.

                                        @d19dotca said in Suggestion for prereleases:

                                        Just to clarify from my perspective a couple of things and add my two cents...

                                        Any experienced users here or someone just reading that thread or this one here is prepared, but others might benefit from clarifications.
                                        It took me several months to figure things out.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                                          Add optional flag for turn addon.

                                          This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

                                          6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

                                          047778e7-4548-4a3a-a2a6-287dac6523af-image.png

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                                          eganonoa
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                                          @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                                          @girish said in What's coming in 7.5:

                                          Add optional flag for turn addon.

                                          This is implemented now - redis and turn can be optional (depending on the app).

                                          6e4e0666-9c54-468f-96fa-e9fa2ab125b4-image.png

                                          047778e7-4548-4a3a-a2a6-287dac6523af-image.png

                                          Hi @girish, I just upgraded to 7.5.1 to test out the new turn and redis options, but I cannot see the services option in relevant apps (wordpress, nextcould, jitsi). Was this option held back?

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