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I don't agree that Cloudron aims just for corporate. Kinda the opposite.
I used Jitsi very happily for a while. Not now, mostly because I don't do that kind of stuff much now.
Certainly agree with you on Discord. And Teamspeak is ... well, <cough>
VOIP is complicated field for self-hosting. I just mean it's not easy to do.EDIT : you might want to edit title line to add 'not' ... if you can.
wrote on Oct 12, 2023, 11:24 AM last edited by@timconsidine Oooops your right I forgot to put Not in the tittle, and now I have no idea how to change it lol
Also I agree, at least Mumble or Jam or Zello.
There are some new projects coming up like Revolt.chat coming up too.Zello is excellent and I would love to see that on cloudron.
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wrote on Oct 12, 2023, 11:26 AM last edited by
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@timconsidine Oooops your right I forgot to put Not in the tittle, and now I have no idea how to change it lol
Also I agree, at least Mumble or Jam or Zello.
There are some new projects coming up like Revolt.chat coming up too.Zello is excellent and I would love to see that on cloudron.
wrote on Oct 12, 2023, 12:07 PM last edited by@sir-paradise said in Simply Why Is Cloudron Not adding New Voip Apps???:
Zello
That looks good, but doesn't look it is really designed to be self-hosted apart from on their "price on application" enterprise plans for large organisations.
I think Mumble is probably the best bet, but I'd love to have Jam too.
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wrote on Oct 13, 2023, 4:03 PM last edited by
The Mirotalk range of a/v apps can be self-hosted. There is a topic for it here on the forum.
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my 2 cents for more VoIP apps (and no, it is not an implicit addition to the app wishlist):
https://wazo-platform.org/
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my 2 cents for more VoIP apps (and no, it is not an implicit addition to the app wishlist):
https://wazo-platform.org/
https://www.freepbx.org/wrote on Oct 13, 2023, 6:06 PM last edited by@luckow said in Simply Why Is Cloudron Not adding New Voip Apps???:
it is not an implicit addition to the app wishlist
why is that? because you don't they'd be suitable to run on Cloudron due to their complexity? or?
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@luckow said in Simply Why Is Cloudron Not adding New Voip Apps???:
it is not an implicit addition to the app wishlist
why is that? because you don't they'd be suitable to run on Cloudron due to their complexity? or?
@jdaviescoates I've been running freepbx on a dedicated $6 VPS for a few years now and it works without fail. It could be an addition but I don't think it's worth investing time to convert it to a Cloudron app. The automatic updates are fully functional. And only a few times a month do I have to click on some "apply changes" buttons. A firewall is built in to separate administration from normal use. It's so easy to install and a bit "fire & forget", like a Cloudron app. https://www.freepbx.org/get-started/ Let us rather invest lifetime in other projects.
In short, Wazo seems to be a beast. And since it is a niche tool, I don't think we can build a reliable testing infrastructure for updates.
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@jdaviescoates I've been running freepbx on a dedicated $6 VPS for a few years now and it works without fail. It could be an addition but I don't think it's worth investing time to convert it to a Cloudron app. The automatic updates are fully functional. And only a few times a month do I have to click on some "apply changes" buttons. A firewall is built in to separate administration from normal use. It's so easy to install and a bit "fire & forget", like a Cloudron app. https://www.freepbx.org/get-started/ Let us rather invest lifetime in other projects.
In short, Wazo seems to be a beast. And since it is a niche tool, I don't think we can build a reliable testing infrastructure for updates.
wrote on Oct 13, 2023, 7:59 PM last edited by@luckow said in Simply Why Is Cloudron Not adding New Voip Apps???:
@jdaviescoates I've been running freepbx on a dedicated $6 VPS for a few years now and it works without fail.
Nice. Netcup? Hetzner? Someone else? Thanks!
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@luckow said in Simply Why Is Cloudron Not adding New Voip Apps???:
@jdaviescoates I've been running freepbx on a dedicated $6 VPS for a few years now and it works without fail.
Nice. Netcup? Hetzner? Someone else? Thanks!
@jdaviescoates DE-NETCUP-SERVER
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wrote on Oct 14, 2023, 9:28 AM last edited by
I like Jam also ;))
I think they should at least try all these out because reading up, you guys have some great suggestions, but I am not seeing them even try as simple one like Mumble. I really hope they are reading this and taking note on how much we want some VoIP Chat clients on Cloudron. -
@jdaviescoates I've been running freepbx on a dedicated $6 VPS for a few years now and it works without fail. It could be an addition but I don't think it's worth investing time to convert it to a Cloudron app. The automatic updates are fully functional. And only a few times a month do I have to click on some "apply changes" buttons. A firewall is built in to separate administration from normal use. It's so easy to install and a bit "fire & forget", like a Cloudron app. https://www.freepbx.org/get-started/ Let us rather invest lifetime in other projects.
In short, Wazo seems to be a beast. And since it is a niche tool, I don't think we can build a reliable testing infrastructure for updates.
wrote on Oct 14, 2023, 3:55 PM last edited by@luckow @jdaviescoates Would like to suggest another hosted VoIP service: https://questblue.com. They are U.S. based (not sure if that is a potential issue for EU customers) but have been very happy with service, value and support. We looked at FreePBX, 3CX, etc. and found QuestBlue by accident looking for reasonable DiDs. When we found they offered a hosted PBX we never looked back. We can order international DiDs from many countries, but I do not know if existing International DiDs can be ported in. We currently have a dedicated server with backup and several DiDs, Fax (for rare occasions) and we are paying ~ $US25/month. No issues for 1 year+ we have been a customer. Highly recommended.
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@luckow @jdaviescoates Would like to suggest another hosted VoIP service: https://questblue.com. They are U.S. based (not sure if that is a potential issue for EU customers) but have been very happy with service, value and support. We looked at FreePBX, 3CX, etc. and found QuestBlue by accident looking for reasonable DiDs. When we found they offered a hosted PBX we never looked back. We can order international DiDs from many countries, but I do not know if existing International DiDs can be ported in. We currently have a dedicated server with backup and several DiDs, Fax (for rare occasions) and we are paying ~ $US25/month. No issues for 1 year+ we have been a customer. Highly recommended.
wrote on Oct 14, 2023, 4:55 PM last edited by@crazybrad thanks, but I think I'm going to take a leaf out of @luckow's book and try self-hosting FreePBX on a cheap dedicated VPS and see how I get on
