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webdav on surfer

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  • nebulonN Offline
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    nebulon
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    Just tried also on a fresh installation and as far as I can tell nothing really changed there and it works at least from the gnome filemanager with the uri davs://surfer.domain.com/_webdav and username (which is not relevant) and the api token for the password.

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      Just tried also on a fresh installation and as far as I can tell nothing really changed there and it works at least from the gnome filemanager with the uri davs://surfer.domain.com/_webdav and username (which is not relevant) and the api token for the password.

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      @nebulon Ok I'll poke a little more at it.

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        Just tried also on a fresh installation and as far as I can tell nothing really changed there and it works at least from the gnome filemanager with the uri davs://surfer.domain.com/_webdav and username (which is not relevant) and the api token for the password.

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        @nebulon said in webdav on surfer:

        Just tried also on a fresh installation and as far as I can tell nothing really changed there and it works at least from the gnome filemanager with the uri davs://surfer.domain.com/_webdav and username (which is not relevant) and the api token for the password.

        It does work. But unlike other webdav mounts (i.e. my various Nextcloud accounts) it doesn't stay connect/ remember the password like it used to before you moved to Access Tokens only.

        I find this rather frustrating as every time I want to do anything on my local machine, like save a file to my Surfer app, I first have to login via the web and copy the Access Token again.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          Interesting. AFAIK, there is no difference between tokens and username/password (for the webdav client).

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            what about what happens after, session caching, cookies, etc

            Conscious tech

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              WebDAV doesn't have session/cookies etc

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                most likely this is a client issue, where for some reason your webdav client does not cache the password (now password is that access token)

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  most likely this is a client issue, where for some reason your webdav client does not cache the password (now password is that access token)

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                  @nebulon but it does cache it for Nextcloud username/ passwords and used to cache it for Surfer too before you changed it to acess token/ pw only.

                  The only thing that has changed in my set up is Surfer itself.

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @nebulon but it does cache it for Nextcloud username/ passwords and used to cache it for Surfer too before you changed it to acess token/ pw only.

                    The only thing that has changed in my set up is Surfer itself.

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                    @jdaviescoates yeah, that is what is strange. for the client, the access token is no different from a password. there's no difference.

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                      Working for me on fresh installs!

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                      • girishG girish

                        @jdaviescoates yeah, that is what is strange. for the client, the access token is no different from a password. there's no difference.

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                        @girish said in webdav on surfer:

                        @jdaviescoates yeah, that is what is strange. for the client, the access token is no different from a password. there's no difference.

                        I worked it out!

                        When clicking Connect in Nautilus, it wasn't prompt/ asking if I wanted to save my password at all, I was just presented with this:

                        Screenshot from 2023-10-19 19-23-26.png

                        And the only thing possible to do when that screen is displayed it to either enter a password or cancel, it's not even possible to view another app or anything.

                        But it seems it should as per e.g. this image from this guide https://www.knthost.com/nextcloud/setup-gnome-nautilus-access-nextcloud-files-webdav

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                        And because I must've chosen "Remember forever" when setting up Nextcloud mount (either that or just adding Nextcloud Accounts via Ubuntu Online Account settings does that anyway), when I tried testing it with an instance of Nextcloud instead of Surfer it doesn't even ask for a password at all. So I figured it must've remember the password somewhere...

                        So I searched for Passwords and found this Passwords and Keys app that I've never seen/ used before

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                        And I saw there was a pw stored for library.uniteddiversity.coop

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                        But of course that was the old password before Surfer updated to just use access tokens. So I edited the pw to be the new access token, and now it all works again! Phew.

                        And just to test, I decided to try and connect to a Surfer app that I've never tried to mount locally before, and lo and behold this time it did show this:

                        Screenshot from 2023-10-19 20-20-15.png

                        Although I note that Nautilus required me to add a Username before being able to hit the Connect button (the button remained greyed out until both a Username and Password were entered into the fields).

                        Anyways, all working again now (and now I now where to find/ how to change the "Remembered forever" passwords too, so bonus!) 🙂

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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