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App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!

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  • scookeS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by scooke
    #1

    I saw in my nicely colour-coded Notification drop-down that an app's Backup failed. So I expanded the notification and it told me app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi,owfmixhg (totally made up, of course, here) had not backed up. I click the handy blue link to see which app. Unfortunately, the logs also did not tell me which app; that is, it didn't tell me the app name nor the domain. Well, I have 60+ apps, so this means I have to click on each app in the Dashboard so that it loads and I can see it's long code name in the browser address bar, and if that isn't the app, then click <back> and try the next app. For 60+ apps! What if the app in question is the last app!?
    a524f7eb-355d-4823-a7d6-bcceeab67a59-app-code.png

    So I noticed that in the Dashboard with all the app squares I can hover over an app and the domain name appears. This is handy. But what would make it even handier is if the app's code name (I don't know what to call it) can also appear. It would make it much easier for me to figure out what app's Backup didn't succeed.

    If there is a quicker way to deduce which domain/app name corresponds to it's code name (app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi,owfmixhg is at which domain??), please let me know. Otherwise, including that code name in the pop-up in teh app Dashboard which shows the domain name would be hugely useful!

    This is handy:
    Screen Shot 2023-10-22 at 1.19.04 PM.png

    THIS is handier:
    Screen Shot 2023-10-22 at 1.19.04 PM copy.png

    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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    • timconsidineT Offline
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      timconsidine
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      wrote on last edited by timconsidine
      #2

      Good request.

      And kinda similar issue with /home/yellowtent/appdata
      It's tedious to find the right app folder.
      I'm not suggesting that the app folder name is changed.
      And it could be argued that if you're brave/expert enough to looking in those directories, you should be up to the job.
      But I wonder if some navigation (symlinks?) would not be helpful.
      Or is that down to us to create them, at least the ones we might need more than occasionally.

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      • scookeS scooke

        I saw in my nicely colour-coded Notification drop-down that an app's Backup failed. So I expanded the notification and it told me app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi,owfmixhg (totally made up, of course, here) had not backed up. I click the handy blue link to see which app. Unfortunately, the logs also did not tell me which app; that is, it didn't tell me the app name nor the domain. Well, I have 60+ apps, so this means I have to click on each app in the Dashboard so that it loads and I can see it's long code name in the browser address bar, and if that isn't the app, then click <back> and try the next app. For 60+ apps! What if the app in question is the last app!?
        a524f7eb-355d-4823-a7d6-bcceeab67a59-app-code.png

        So I noticed that in the Dashboard with all the app squares I can hover over an app and the domain name appears. This is handy. But what would make it even handier is if the app's code name (I don't know what to call it) can also appear. It would make it much easier for me to figure out what app's Backup didn't succeed.

        If there is a quicker way to deduce which domain/app name corresponds to it's code name (app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi,owfmixhg is at which domain??), please let me know. Otherwise, including that code name in the pop-up in teh app Dashboard which shows the domain name would be hugely useful!

        This is handy:
        Screen Shot 2023-10-22 at 1.19.04 PM.png

        THIS is handier:
        Screen Shot 2023-10-22 at 1.19.04 PM copy.png

        girishG Offline
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        girish
        Staff
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @scooke said in App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!:

        app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi

        Good point! You can put that jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi in that search btw 😄 It's hidden feature to search by app id.

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        • girishG girish

          @scooke said in App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!:

          app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi

          Good point! You can put that jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi in that search btw 😄 It's hidden feature to search by app id.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @girish said in App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!:

          Good point! You can put that jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi in that search btw It's hidden feature to search by app id.

          From my experience, it needs at least the first 6 characters of the appID to find it..

          To address the OP FC, each notification should lead to the settings page of the app in a complete feedback loop.

          Similarly for on-disk symlinks with their associated sub.domains.

          Conscious tech

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          • robiR robi

            @girish said in App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!:

            Good point! You can put that jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi in that search btw It's hidden feature to search by app id.

            From my experience, it needs at least the first 6 characters of the appID to find it..

            To address the OP FC, each notification should lead to the settings page of the app in a complete feedback loop.

            Similarly for on-disk symlinks with their associated sub.domains.

            scookeS Offline
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            scooke
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @robi said in App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!:

            To address the OP FC, each notification should lead to the settings page of the app in a complete feedback loop.

            This makes sense, but it would also create the scenario where a user might not be able to determine where exactly the errors are in the Log panel of the settings page of the app. The last time this happened to me the section of the log which that link in the Notification led to was very useful in helping me deactivate a plugin in a wp installation. Would I have been able to track down the error in the Logs? And in the example of this OP, the notification was already 2 days old, so the pertinent lines would likely not even be visible any more.

            EDIT: I went back to that link to reread the logs it led to... and what do you know. One line DID have the app name
            Oct 20 06:27:27box:backuptask copy: copied to 2023-10-19-220018-044/app_example.com_v4.20.3 errored. error: Error listing objects in snapshot/app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi. Message: Unexpected close tag

            I don't know how or why I missed it the first time. So, I suppose in principle this FC is no longer valid for the posted reason, BUT I still think it would be a useful Feature. That said, making that pop-up text copy-able would add to its usefulness.

            A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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            • scookeS scooke

              @robi said in App name/domain name/app code please in domain pop-up!:

              To address the OP FC, each notification should lead to the settings page of the app in a complete feedback loop.

              This makes sense, but it would also create the scenario where a user might not be able to determine where exactly the errors are in the Log panel of the settings page of the app. The last time this happened to me the section of the log which that link in the Notification led to was very useful in helping me deactivate a plugin in a wp installation. Would I have been able to track down the error in the Logs? And in the example of this OP, the notification was already 2 days old, so the pertinent lines would likely not even be visible any more.

              EDIT: I went back to that link to reread the logs it led to... and what do you know. One line DID have the app name
              Oct 20 06:27:27box:backuptask copy: copied to 2023-10-19-220018-044/app_example.com_v4.20.3 errored. error: Error listing objects in snapshot/app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi. Message: Unexpected close tag

              I don't know how or why I missed it the first time. So, I suppose in principle this FC is no longer valid for the posted reason, BUT I still think it would be a useful Feature. That said, making that pop-up text copy-able would add to its usefulness.

              jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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              jdaviescoates
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @scooke imho the main thing that makes this feature request not really necessary is the fact you can just seach by app id as @girish pointed out 😉

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @scooke imho the main thing that makes this feature request not really necessary is the fact you can just seach by app id as @girish pointed out 😉

                robiR Offline
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                robi
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @jdaviescoates Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @jdaviescoates Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

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                  jdaviescoates
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @robi true, not having to would be even better.

                  But the OP asked

                  "If there is a quicker way to deduce which domain/app name corresponds to it's code name (app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi,owfmixhg is at which domain??), please let me know."

                  And there is a much quicker way: use search

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • nebulonN Offline
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                    nebulon
                    Staff
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    To take a step back, the original notification was from a platform backup as far as I can tell. The link goes to that backup task, which failed somewhere handling an app. I doubt pointing to the app here helps much. The actual issue being the XML parsing error, which is a backup storage (S3) remote issue.

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      @robi true, not having to would be even better.

                      But the OP asked

                      "If there is a quicker way to deduce which domain/app name corresponds to it's code name (app_jhagf8otc872fhfhew8mhxeihfpuhfi,owfmixhg is at which domain??), please let me know."

                      And there is a much quicker way: use search

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                      scooke
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @jdaviescoates Sure, in the overall scheme of things, having to click on an app in the Dashboard to find it's app code name, then back, is two clicks. Seeing the Notification, following the link to the logs, figuring out which of all those characters is the app code name, copying that, then clicking back, or switching tabs, to then enter that into a Search box (paste, enter), is not the end of the world. But I've had a few other instances where being able to just see at a glance what the app code name is would be nice.

                      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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