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  • girishG Offline
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    girish
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    wrote on last edited by girish
    #1

    Heads up, this is a major release for Nextcloud from 18 to 19. We are only rolling this out slowly to see if any issues pop up.

    If you are curious and want to update right away, just check for updates of your nextcloud instance manually from the app configure screen in the Cloudron dashboard and you should be able to apply the update.

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      I noted that the "Community Document Server" (based on Only Office) as part of Nextcloud Hub is marked as "not-compatible" with NC 19.

      And this https://www.collaboraoffice.com/press-releases/collabora-online-as-default-in-nextcloud-hub/ states that Collabora will be the standard for Nextcloud Hub starting with NC 19?!

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        #3

        Yes there is now a Community Version of Collabora Office: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/richdocumentscode
        I tried itjust now and the connection to the server was not working. So I will wait until the app is in status "stable".

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          nebulon
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          #4

          I guess it makes sense to not push out the autoupdate to more users, but allow curious users to update manually for a few more days.

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            #5

            I've now tested Collabora connector with Nextcloud 19 and the Cloudron collabora package and that works fine.

            The OnlyOffice connector also works with Nextcloud 19 just like it did with Nextcloud 18

            So I think we are good from our side.

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            • necrevistonnezrN Offline
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              wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
              #6

              The "Hub" package lists both Collabora Servers:

              • Collabora Online https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/richdocuments and
              • Collabora Online - Built-in CODE Server https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/richdocumentscode

              Screenshot_2020-06-04 Apps -.png

              So it seems you need both for the "Hub" and it says it does not rely on an external server like the Cloudron Collabora Server?!

              This is very confusing and intransparent from Nextcloud's side. They didn't even mention the switch from OnlyOffice to Collabora anywhere.

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              • girishG Offline
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                @nebulon @necrevistonnezr I created a new topic to discuss the changes instead of the update thread.

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                • girishG girish

                  @nebulon @necrevistonnezr I created a new topic to discuss the changes instead of the update thread.

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                  @girish said in Nextcloud 19:

                  @nebulon @necrevistonnezr I created a new topic to discuss the changes instead of the update thread.

                  Thx and sorry 🙂

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                  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                    The "Hub" package lists both Collabora Servers:

                    • Collabora Online https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/richdocuments and
                    • Collabora Online - Built-in CODE Server https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/richdocumentscode

                    Screenshot_2020-06-04 Apps -.png

                    So it seems you need both for the "Hub" and it says it does not rely on an external server like the Cloudron Collabora Server?!

                    This is very confusing and intransparent from Nextcloud's side. They didn't even mention the switch from OnlyOffice to Collabora anywhere.

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                    wrote on last edited by A Former User
                    #9

                    @necrevistonnezr to use office in Nextcloud, two parts are necessary:

                    • "Connector"

                    • "Server"

                    For Collabora Office:

                    • Collabora Online is the connector and includes the settings - it is needed to use Collabora Online

                    • Collabora Online - Built-in CODE Server is the server, which can be installed as a Nextcloud app. Advantage: it is very easy to install. You can also use the Cloudron Collabora app.

                    • Cloudron Collabora App This is the Cloudron Collabora Server App. Advantage: scales better then the Nextcloud Collabora app.

                    If you want to use Collabora Office in Nextcloud you need install the Collabora Online app in Nextcloud. In the settings you can choose whether to use thebuilt in Version or your own server (= Cloudron Collabora App in my case).
                    collabora.png

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                      @nebulon
                      my Collabora Online - Built in CODE Server is not working due to error log: ResourceLocator can not find a web root (root: /app/data/apps/settings.
                      I saw you mentioned the same error here: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/13556
                      Do you know how to fix this?

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                      • necrevistonnezrN Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                        #11

                        Thanks for the detailed explanation - but in line editing of documents doesn't work for me.

                        I have set up the Cloudron Collabora package, installed Collabora Online Nextcloud app and pointed to the Cloudron Collobora url. I get a "green light" i.e. it can connect:

                        Screenshot_2020-06-05 Einstellungen -(1).png

                        However, if I click on a odt document for example to edit, it tells me

                        Collabora Online Development Edition could not be loaded
                        

                        even though the Collabora Online Nextcloud app is not pointed to the Collabora Online Development Edition but to the separata Cloudron Collabora installation.

                        The logs in the admin account of Nextcloud are filled with things like this:

                        Doctrine\DBAL\Exception\InvalidFieldNameException: An exception occurred while executing 'INSERT INTO "oc_richdocuments_wopi"("fileid","owner_uid","editor_uid","version","canwrite","server_host","token","expiry","template_destination","hide_download","direct","is_remote_token","template_id") VALUES(?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)' with params [708914, "username", "username", 0, true, "https:\/\/nc.MYROOTDOMAIN.tld\/", "Xx1zy2tgxFRDxPiUWUbvFQ4zPgreLEip", 1591344464, 0, false, false, false, 0]: SQLSTATE[42703]: Undefined column: 7 ERROR: column "template_id" of relation "oc_richdocuments_wopi" does not exist LINE 1: ...ation","hide_download","direct","is_remote_token","template_... ^
                        

                        and

                        ResourceLocator can not find a web root (root: /app/data/apps/spreed, file: css/spreed/e6bc-1805-merged-files.css?v=184d440645b8bb9e5d3642f9160f9b28, webRoot: , throw: true)
                        
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                          The resource locator error in the logs should be irrelevant for this issue and it something which is there since a long time. We have to investigate again if it is finally possible to make Nextcloud not complain here.

                          Regarding the other issue about the database error, this looks like some db migration went wrong during enabling that connector app. Can you maybe remove the connector app and readd it?

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            The resource locator error in the logs should be irrelevant for this issue and it something which is there since a long time. We have to investigate again if it is finally possible to make Nextcloud not complain here.

                            Regarding the other issue about the database error, this looks like some db migration went wrong during enabling that connector app. Can you maybe remove the connector app and readd it?

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                            @nebulon said in Nextcloud 19:

                            Regarding the other issue about the database error, this looks like some db migration went wrong during enabling that connector app. Can you maybe remove the connector app and readd it?

                            Disabled and then removed app. Added it again, checked settings, logged out as admin and logged in as user, Collabora still doesn't load.

                            Admin log still:

                            Doctrine\DBAL\Exception\InvalidFieldNameException: An exception occurred while executing 'INSERT INTO "oc_richdocuments_wopi"("fileid","owner_uid","editor_uid","version","canwrite","server_host","token","expiry","template_destination","hide_download","direct","is_remote_token","template_id") VALUES(?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)' with params [80482, "user", "user", 0, true, "https://nc.domain.tld/", "X9YFmDsPRZMIvvuejigppXn7yuOQTzaR", 1591346839, 0, false, false, false, 0]: SQLSTATE[42703]: Undefined column: 7 ERROR: column "template_id" of relation "oc_richdocuments_wopi" does not exist LINE 1: ...ation","hide_download","direct","is_remote_token","template_... ^

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                              I cannot really reproduce this, maybe you can report this upstream with the connector app and maybe the authors know better what is missing or went wrong in your instance.

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                              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                I noted that the "Community Document Server" (based on Only Office) as part of Nextcloud Hub is marked as "not-compatible" with NC 19.

                                And this https://www.collaboraoffice.com/press-releases/collabora-online-as-default-in-nextcloud-hub/ states that Collabora will be the standard for Nextcloud Hub starting with NC 19?!

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                                @necrevistonnezr said in Nextcloud 19:

                                I noted that the "Community Document Server" (based on Only Office) as part of Nextcloud Hub is marked as "not-compatible" with NC 19.

                                And this https://www.collaboraoffice.com/press-releases/collabora-online-as-default-in-nextcloud-hub/ states that Collabora will be the standard for Nextcloud Hub starting with NC 19?!

                                BTW the reason for the switch could be https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DocumentServer/issues/805

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                                • nebulonN nebulon

                                  I cannot really reproduce this, maybe you can report this upstream with the connector app and maybe the authors know better what is missing or went wrong in your instance.

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                                  @nebulon said in Nextcloud 19:

                                  I cannot really reproduce this, maybe you can report this upstream with the connector app and maybe the authors know better what is missing or went wrong in your instance.

                                  Reported here: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nc-19-document-not-editable-with-external-collabora-server-doctrine-dbal-exception-invalidfieldnameexception/83751

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                                    Hi:

                                    I faced an issue while trying to use the Cloudron LDAP with a fresh install of Nextcloud 19.

                                    If "access control" is either set to "all Cloudron users", or to a specific "Cloudron group" or to a specific "Cloudron user" while installing Nextcloud 19, the list of relevant Cloudron users keeps on being added repeatedly - roughly once every second when seen under the "Everyone" tab in the "Users" section on Nextcloud.

                                    Since my fresh install was only for demo purposes, I have solved my immediate problem by delegating "access control" to Nextcloud.

                                    I am reporting this odd behaviour so that the Cloudron-Nextcloud LDAP settings can be fixed, if required.

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                                      wrote on last edited by YurkshireLad
                                      #18

                                      I don't want to be a party pooper, but I would hold off using Nextcloud 19 until the next point release. I hit some problems, one of which they've already fixed. The worst one was duplicate pictures in the Photos app. (Edit for details)

                                      I deleted all the example pictures and uploaded one via the Android app (which is also broken). If I clicked the picture in NextCloud, it was displayed full screen. If I closed it, the photo was duplicated in the photo gallery.

                                      Deleting documents in the Android app is impossible as selection is completely broken at the moment.

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                                        #19

                                        There's also this strange bug that in the user listing the users keep re-appearing like infinite scroll...

                                        edit: oh this is exactly what @oj has reported.

                                        @oj this is a bug in nextcloud and also it's a display issue, it's harmless otherwise.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          There's also this strange bug that in the user listing the users keep re-appearing like infinite scroll...

                                          edit: oh this is exactly what @oj has reported.

                                          @oj this is a bug in nextcloud and also it's a display issue, it's harmless otherwise.

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                                          @girish Your new "UPDATE" button is in an "inviting green" color... asking to be pushed.

                                          What if it was switched to a "scarry red" with a scary message like "You sure you cannot wait for a few days for the devs to push you a nice, stable release of this app as an autoupdate??? By proceeding, you risk ruining your hitherto trouble-free app updates experience on Cloudron!!!"

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