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how to change DNS settings of my server ?

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    murgero
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    On the server hosting your apps, you may need to change the config here: /etc/resolv/conf

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      cylon
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      is it something I can do from cloudron or must I ssh into the server ?

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        cylon
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        I tried to shh and edit the /etc/resolv/conf file but the file does not exists and if I try to create one with sudo vim /etc/resolv/conf I have a error: E212: Can't open file for writing

        When I ssh I see this, so I wonder if it is somehow cloudron also managing the resolv/conf file ?

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          murgero
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          I guess it depends on how your server is setup, docs suggest something different than what I did though so try this too: https://docs.cloudron.io/networking/#dns

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            cylon
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            This doc seems to be for internal name resolution of my servers apps, like (app1.my-cloudron.com)
            What I want is changing the DNS for external name resolution. For instance, instead of using google DNS 8.8.8.8 I want to use 9.9.9.9

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              This doc seems to be for internal name resolution of my servers apps, like (app1.my-cloudron.com)
              What I want is changing the DNS for external name resolution. For instance, instead of using google DNS 8.8.8.8 I want to use 9.9.9.9

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              murgero
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              @cylon the doc I sent tells you how to setup an upstream dns server which should resolve your issue.

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                joseph
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                @cylon I guess you are using netcup ? netcup makes /etc/resolv.conf as readonly using chattr

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                  cylon
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                  no I'm using time4vps.

                  I tried edit the file /etc/systemd/resolve.conf with this:

                  [Resolve] 
                  DNS=9.9.9.9 9.9.9.10
                  

                  but it doesn't seem to work.

                  Is there something else I should do? I don't really understand the unbound DNS configuration in this doc: https://docs.cloudron.io/networking/#dns

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                    no I'm using time4vps.

                    I tried edit the file /etc/systemd/resolve.conf with this:

                    [Resolve] 
                    DNS=9.9.9.9 9.9.9.10
                    

                    but it doesn't seem to work.

                    Is there something else I should do? I don't really understand the unbound DNS configuration in this doc: https://docs.cloudron.io/networking/#dns

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                    murgero
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                    @cylon You might need to restart the systemd service that handles your DNS if it's not the one documented by cloudron

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                      #11

                      I did restart systemd-resolved service but doesn't seem to work.
                      After doing so the content of /etc/resolv.conf is :

                      # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)      
                      #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN             
                      # 127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.                                 
                                                                                                          
                      nameserver 212.24.109.143                                                           
                      nameserver 80.208.225.143 
                      

                      Shouldn't it be 9.9.9.9 as specified in the /etc/systemd/resolve.conf file ?

                      #  This file is part of systemd.                                                    
                      #                                                                                   
                      #  systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the     
                      #  terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free          
                      #  Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option)      
                      #  any later version.                                                               
                      #                                                                                   
                      # Entries in this file show the compile time defaults. Local configuration          
                      # should be created by either modifying this file, or by creating "drop-ins" in     
                      # the resolved.conf.d/ subdirectory. The latter is generally recommended.           
                      # Defaults can be restored by simply deleting this file and all drop-ins.           
                      #                                                                                   
                      # Use 'systemd-analyze cat-config systemd/resolved.conf' to display the full config.
                      #                                                                                   
                      # See resolved.conf(5) for details.                                                 
                                                                                                          
                      [Resolve]                                                                                                                           
                      DNS=9.9.9.9 9.9.9.10                                                                
                      

                      Cloudron doc says All apps and services use systemd-resolved for name resolution. You can configure systemctl-resolved as required by your network
                      So the above should have work isn't it ?

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                        joseph
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                        @cylon systemd-resolved run on 127.0.0.53 . So, you have to also change /etc/resolv.conf to be nameserver 127.0.0.53 .

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                          cylon
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                          How do I do that ? If I change the file /etc/resolv.conf to add the line

                          nameserver 127.0.0.53
                          

                          It get overwritten at reboot and the line is deleted

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                            cylon
                            wrote on last edited by cylon
                            #14

                            I tried to changed the /etc/unbound/unbound.conf.d/cloudron-network.conf adding this:

                            # Forward all DNS queries to Quad9 DNS                                              
                            forward-zone:                                                                       
                                    name: "."                                                                   
                                    forward-addr: 9.9.9.9                                                       
                                    forward-addr: 149.112.112.112 
                            

                            but request are still going to 212.24.109.143 and not 9.9.9.9

                            what service is managing the /etc/resolve.conf file ?

                            here are all my files:
                            /etc/systemd/resolved.conf:

                            #  This file is part of systemd.                                                    
                            #                                                                                   
                            #  systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the     
                            #  terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by the Free          
                            #  Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option)      
                            #  any later version.                                                               
                            #                                                                                   
                            # Entries in this file show the compile time defaults. Local configuration          
                            # should be created by either modifying this file, or by creating "drop-ins" in     
                            # the resolved.conf.d/ subdirectory. The latter is generally recommended.           
                            # Defaults can be restored by simply deleting this file and all drop-ins.           
                            #                                                                                   
                            # Use 'systemd-analyze cat-config systemd/resolved.conf' to display the full config.
                            #                                                                                   
                            # See resolved.conf(5) for details.                                                 
                                                                                                                
                            [Resolve]                                                                                       
                            DNS=9.9.9.9 9.9.9.10
                            

                            /etc/resolv.conf:

                            # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)      
                            #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN             
                            # 127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.                                 
                                                                                                                
                            nameserver 212.24.109.143                                                           
                            nameserver 80.208.225.143
                            

                            /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf:

                            # This is /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf managed by man:systemd-resolved(8).      
                            # Do not edit.                                                                      
                            #                                                                                   
                            # This file might be symlinked as /etc/resolv.conf. If you're looking at            
                            # /etc/resolv.conf and seeing this text, you have followed the symlink.             
                            #                                                                                   
                            # This is a dynamic resolv.conf file for connecting local clients directly to       
                            # all known uplink DNS servers. This file lists all configured search domains.      
                            #                                                                                   
                            # Third party programs should typically not access this file directly, but only     
                            # through the symlink at /etc/resolv.conf. To manage man:resolv.conf(5) in a        
                            # different way, replace this symlink by a static file or a different symlink.      
                            #                                                                                   
                            # See man:systemd-resolved.service(8) for details about the supported modes of      
                            # operation for /etc/resolv.conf.                                                   
                                                                                                                
                            nameserver 9.9.9.9                                                                  
                            nameserver 9.9.9.10                                                                 
                            search . 
                            

                            Running resolvectl status yield:

                            Global                                                                              
                                   Protocols: -LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported                    
                            resolv.conf mode: foreign                                                           
                                 DNS Servers: 9.9.9.9 9.9.9.10                                                  
                                                                                                                
                            Link 2 (ens3)                                                                       
                            Current Scopes: none                                                                
                                 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported        
                                                                                                                
                            Link 3 (docker0)                                                                    
                            Current Scopes: none                                                                
                                 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported        
                                                                                                                
                            Link 4 (br-e8030366a286)                                                            
                            Current Scopes: none                                                                
                                 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported        
                                                                                                                
                            Link 6 (veth13a1cdd)                                                                
                            Current Scopes: none                                                                
                                 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported        
                                                                                                                
                            Link 8 (vethf77db43)                                                                
                            Current Scopes: none                                                                
                                 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverT
                            

                            showing that resolv.conf is in mode: foreign

                            what service manage resolv.conf in cloudron ?

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                              girish
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                              @cylon there's much to unwrap. Unfortunately, the way all these things interact is quite complicated.

                              Before I say anything, are you on Cloudron 8? I am wonder why you have your /etc/resolv.conf handled by resolvconf ? Cloudron 8 has removed this package. If you are still on some < v8, I recommend upgrading first because the instructions to change the DNS are different.

                              For Cloudron 8, here is a checklist:

                              • Make sure resolvconf package is not there . We don't install this anymore intentionally. apt remove resolvconf
                              • /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink to ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
                              • systemctl status systemd-resolved must be enabled
                              • Finally, /etc/systemd/resolved.conf has your preferred DNS servers (quad9 in your case).

                              That should be it. After that, host www.cloudron.io should work out of the box.

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                                I used to use Time4VPS and thoroughly enjoyed it. Did you check these out?:
                                https://www.time4vps.com/knowledgebase/working-with-dns-manager/
                                https://www.time4vps.com/knowledgebase/create-nameserver-with-your-domain/

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                                  cylon
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                                  #17

                                  I'm still indeed on v7, but I can't update to v8 😞
                                  https://forum.cloudron.io/post/93010

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                                    @cylon for v7, cloudron uses unbound. For Cloudron 7, please check this:

                                    • /etc/resolv.conf should have nameserver 127.0.0.1
                                    • systemctl status unbound should say running
                                    • host www.cloudron.io 127.0.0.1 should work

                                    systemd-resolved is not used at all. So, you can ignore all those related threads and configs. I would like to understand how it got to this state though? Do you think it tried to upgrade to v8 and end it up in this state?

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                                      thanks for the help, but this is not urgent, I can wait for the update to the v8 so I won't have to do this change twice 🙂

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                                        @cylon for v7, cloudron uses unbound. For Cloudron 7, please check this:

                                        • /etc/resolv.conf should have nameserver 127.0.0.1
                                        • systemctl status unbound should say running
                                        • host www.cloudron.io 127.0.0.1 should work

                                        systemd-resolved is not used at all. So, you can ignore all those related threads and configs. I would like to understand how it got to this state though? Do you think it tried to upgrade to v8 and end it up in this state?

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                                        @girish said in how to change DNS settings of my server ?:

                                        systemd-resolved is not used at all. So, you can ignore all those related threads and configs. I would like to understand how it got to this state though? Do you think it tried to upgrade to v8 and end it up in this state?

                                        That's possible, I don't remember if I first tried to upgrade to v8 or to change the DNS

                                        I updated the /etc/systemd/resolve.conf and only after did I check the /etc/resolv/conf file, I don't know what state it was before I updated /etc/systemd/resolve.conf

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                                          Fixed in support as outlined in https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12300/how-to-change-dns-settings-of-my-server/18

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